Making the news today....

[WesD]

7 minutes ago, Vespasian said:

Cameron went to Europe to negotiate a deal to appease the scumbag brexiteers in his party, just as Theresa May has been blackmailed by them.. 

 

These muppets don't give a shit about anyone or anyone else, all they care about is themselves.. the narcissistic scum want it all to be about them. as long as its about them, they wont give a crap if the country burns to the ground..  

 

If we leave europe with a hard brexit, I'll give it two years before all these traitors are hiding down in their basements..  set of ne'er do wells that they are..

You where doing well and then we go back in reverse and generalise again thinking we know what people are thinking and what they want to do. 

 

You ever thought of putting yourself out there and becoming an MP? You seemingly know what we all want and what is best for us. 

[arbogrunt]

52 minutes ago, Vespasian said:

Well you might make that argument, but, I do know what would of happened if we hadn't voted to leave Europe.. Nothin, nothin would of happened.. but now we're in a guessing game as to what the future holds...

 

Hows that for stable governance?..  hows that for a bedrock to build a stable economy on?.. what a set of numpties.

I know what would happen if we hadnt left the EU (we can't leave Europe...we are here!). We would have the Euro as our currency, KM instead of miles and we would be part of the Schengen zone...all by 2020. Also, we would be part of a Euro Army.(to some extent or another)..designed to eventually replace NATO...which would undoubtedly  incur conscription to provide enough cannon-fodder to man the new 'Ost Front' with Russia. All these younger voters who blamed Brexit on coffin dodging old farts, would be digging slit trenches in Estonia!  

Edited October 19, 2017 by arbogrunt

[skyhuck]

1 hour ago, Vespasian said:

Once a week Matelot!!..

 

Be a fine thing if I got to do it once a month,  well if I'm gonna go out my way I'd say It'd be would be nice to actually get to fkin do it all..

 

hahahaha once a week.

 

 

Finally you posted something I believe 

[Mick Dempsey]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4998370/The-FA-probe-coach-Lee-Kendall-Eniola-Aluko-claims.html

 

The problem here is that the dynamics of men’s teams and women’s teams is very different.

 

Having played amateur football for many years I can tell you that very little is off limits as far as abuse, mickey taking, general banter, coaches will do anything to get the rise out of you.

 

I feel sorry for this Lee Kendall, looks like his career and reputation is blighted by transgressing the PC rules.

[matelot]

Someone comes back from Syria after a year beheading people and they're not to get charged? I wonder if such leniency will be extended to speeding and not paying your TV licence?

 

Absolutely bizarre.

 

"Many Britons who have returned from Islamic State territory are not being prosecuted and instead need to be reintegrated because they were simply naive, the Government’s terrorism laws watchdog has said.

Hundreds of Britons who went to Syria or Iraq in the past few years are already thought to have returned, but the authorities have decided not to charge them, Max Hill QC said.

He spoke days after Andrew Parker, the director general of MI5, said the country faced an intense threat from Islamist terrorism, with plots now being hatched at a tempo he had never seen before."

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/19/naive-disillusioned-britons-returning-syria-should-not-prosecuted/

 

 

[Haironyourchest]

Re. the returning citizens who have joined ISIS. It's an interesting legal and ethical conundrum. What should be the reponse from a given society when it's citizens travel abroad to commit acts that are considered high crimes in their county of origen?? If a person goes to Holland to smoke cannabis, and it can be proven they did - should they be charged with a crime when they return? What if they went to SE Asia to avail of child prostitution services? Where should the line be drawn, or should it be drawn at all? In Ireland a few years ago, a girl was stopped (at the "request" of a Priest, IIRC) by the Gardai at the airport on suspicion of attempting to travel to the UK for an abortion. She was prevented from exercising her right to travel...national debate followed. Whether it was right or wrong they stopped her, the question raised is a difficult one. Like in the Soviet Union you were not allowed to leave. Period. Do we want to live in a society like that?

We could....

1. Preemptively detain and charge people at the airport who are under suspicion.

2. Arrest them on their return for crimes committed on foreign soil, even though it wasn't a crime where they went. If they dont want to face the music, then don't come back.

3. Deny them re-entry and revoke their citizenship. "You want to commit gross crimes outside our jurisdiction? Ok, fine, but don't ever come back"...But then you have the problem of stateless people which no state want's to take, a geopolitical nightmare.

4. Rehabilitate them. Go the Sweden route, give them a house, a job, benefits and....therapy...(chuckle) Yeah right.

5. Ignore the problem.

6. If we're talking just about ISIS, try to "neutralise" the offenders while they're still abroad. Problem solved.

 

 

 

 

[arbogrunt]

the reality of this situation is this, taking decisive action against these people, would damage political careers in todays PC Britain. These people WILL carry out terrorist attacks or train others to do so. At some point, the number of people killed or maimed, will damage political careers - unless decisive action is taken...until the balance tips...our Leaders will do nothing. No happy endings here, people will die unnecessarily in the UK...hope and pray its none of our family or friends  -

[arbogrunt]

19 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

6. If we're talking just about ISIS, try to "neutralise" the offenders while they're still abroad. Problem solved.

this is exactly whats been happening....it just goes to show...you've got to watch where you use mobile phones, what you say and to whom....when your a bad guy...

[TIMON]

Robert Mugabe is appointed Goodwill Ambassador for the WHO.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You really couldn’t make it up.

[skyhuck]

1 hour ago, TIMON said:

Robert Mugabe is appointed Goodwill Ambassador for the WHO
You really couldn’t make it up.

Just makes me think that pretty much everything is a joke. I really am past caring, I'm only looking out for me and mine, everyone else is on their own.