Making the news today....

[skyhuck]

1 hour ago, Vespasian said:

Once a week Matelot!!..

 

Be a fine thing if I got to do it once a month,  well if I'm gonna go out my way I'd say It'd be would be nice to actually get to fkin do it all..

 

hahahaha once a week.

 

 

Finally you posted something I believe 

[Mick Dempsey]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4998370/The-FA-probe-coach-Lee-Kendall-Eniola-Aluko-claims.html

 

The problem here is that the dynamics of men’s teams and women’s teams is very different.

 

Having played amateur football for many years I can tell you that very little is off limits as far as abuse, mickey taking, general banter, coaches will do anything to get the rise out of you.

 

I feel sorry for this Lee Kendall, looks like his career and reputation is blighted by transgressing the PC rules.

[matelot]

Someone comes back from Syria after a year beheading people and they're not to get charged? I wonder if such leniency will be extended to speeding and not paying your TV licence?

 

Absolutely bizarre.

 

"Many Britons who have returned from Islamic State territory are not being prosecuted and instead need to be reintegrated because they were simply naive, the Government’s terrorism laws watchdog has said.

Hundreds of Britons who went to Syria or Iraq in the past few years are already thought to have returned, but the authorities have decided not to charge them, Max Hill QC said.

He spoke days after Andrew Parker, the director general of MI5, said the country faced an intense threat from Islamist terrorism, with plots now being hatched at a tempo he had never seen before."

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/19/naive-disillusioned-britons-returning-syria-should-not-prosecuted/

 

 

[Haironyourchest]

Re. the returning citizens who have joined ISIS. It's an interesting legal and ethical conundrum. What should be the reponse from a given society when it's citizens travel abroad to commit acts that are considered high crimes in their county of origen?? If a person goes to Holland to smoke cannabis, and it can be proven they did - should they be charged with a crime when they return? What if they went to SE Asia to avail of child prostitution services? Where should the line be drawn, or should it be drawn at all? In Ireland a few years ago, a girl was stopped (at the "request" of a Priest, IIRC) by the Gardai at the airport on suspicion of attempting to travel to the UK for an abortion. She was prevented from exercising her right to travel...national debate followed. Whether it was right or wrong they stopped her, the question raised is a difficult one. Like in the Soviet Union you were not allowed to leave. Period. Do we want to live in a society like that?

We could....

1. Preemptively detain and charge people at the airport who are under suspicion.

2. Arrest them on their return for crimes committed on foreign soil, even though it wasn't a crime where they went. If they dont want to face the music, then don't come back.

3. Deny them re-entry and revoke their citizenship. "You want to commit gross crimes outside our jurisdiction? Ok, fine, but don't ever come back"...But then you have the problem of stateless people which no state want's to take, a geopolitical nightmare.

4. Rehabilitate them. Go the Sweden route, give them a house, a job, benefits and....therapy...(chuckle) Yeah right.

5. Ignore the problem.

6. If we're talking just about ISIS, try to "neutralise" the offenders while they're still abroad. Problem solved.

 

 

 

 

[arbogrunt]

the reality of this situation is this, taking decisive action against these people, would damage political careers in todays PC Britain. These people WILL carry out terrorist attacks or train others to do so. At some point, the number of people killed or maimed, will damage political careers - unless decisive action is taken...until the balance tips...our Leaders will do nothing. No happy endings here, people will die unnecessarily in the UK...hope and pray its none of our family or friends  -

[arbogrunt]

19 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

6. If we're talking just about ISIS, try to "neutralise" the offenders while they're still abroad. Problem solved.

this is exactly whats been happening....it just goes to show...you've got to watch where you use mobile phones, what you say and to whom....when your a bad guy...

[TIMON]

Robert Mugabe is appointed Goodwill Ambassador for the WHO.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You really couldn’t make it up.

[skyhuck]

1 hour ago, TIMON said:

Robert Mugabe is appointed Goodwill Ambassador for the WHO
You really couldn’t make it up.

Just makes me think that pretty much everything is a joke. I really am past caring, I'm only looking out for me and mine, everyone else is on their own.

[WesD]

47 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

Just makes me think that pretty much everything is a joke. I really am past caring, I'm only looking out for me and mine, everyone else is on their own.

I know what you mean but the world still needs good people, I just care now about things I can control or make a difference to be that fundraising when I do stupid events or like last night when passing 2 homeless chaps on the way home, knowing storm Brian was on route I went to the garage and bought them 2 coffees and a bag of food only a tenner to me to them ......

 

For the world to continue having/being good people need to do good. 

[eggsarascal]

On 19/10/2017 at 18:53, WesD said:

@eggsarascal did you manage to have a think on the water? Private or public which is/has provided a better service taking costings into account etc?

I'm probably not best qualified to answer the question because I never worked for a Water Authority when they were publicly owned, neither as Mrs Egg even though she has worked for the same company for 27 years.

 

what I will say is when I first started virtually all managers worked their way up off the tools, they knew the job inside out. Most of them could tell the lads/lasses on the ground what the cause of a problem was at certain sites without getting out of their chair. Over the years things changed, folk only got a managers job if they had a degree, didn't matter what that degree was in, just a degree was good enough!

 

We went from straight forward job cards onto Sap, what a fecking shambles!, We spent more time driving than we did working, cuz that what the system told you to do, and when the idea of bringing in the new system is the 'baby' of one of the directors you are stuck with it if it works or not! The money wasted was phenomenal!

 

Do I think it would be better off back in the hands of the public sector?, Mmm I'm not sure. Lots of money is wasted in the public sector. That said private companies have to make money for their overseas owners. The company I worked for are owned by a Canadian hedge fund company and a French pension fund company.

 

perhaps they should be brought back in house and the money received invested back into the assets they need to maintain?

 

fire fighting is ok for a short while but you can't beat PPM for keeping on top of things.