Making the news today....

[coppice cutter]

49 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Looks like they caught up with Salman Rushdie.

The expression "long runs the fox" is plainly multicultural.

[Mick Dempsey]

I see a number of cities are vying to host Eurovision.

Hope whoever wins has stocked up on monkey pox vaccine!

[trigger_andy]

18 minutes ago, coppice cutter said:

When I started working basic rate was 33%, there was no minimum wage, and personal allowances were much smaller than now even in real terms.

 

So if you're pissed off now just be thankful you weren't trying to forge a path then.

 

 

It should be like that now! Far to many pay virtually nothing in tax. Even at £30k a year income tax is only £3,500. 

[Mick Dempsey]

Andy, I understand you (and Dave) are lucky enough to have quite a few children, good for you both.

 

Did you pay for their births (all the doctors, midwives etc) privately?

Have they all been educated in private schools from infancy?

Any time they are ill do you pay privately every penny for health care?

Not trying to catch you out, you know where I’m going with this.

 

 

[eggsarascal]

13 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

It should be like that now! Far to many pay virtually nothing in tax. Even at £30k a year income tax is only £3,500. 

Conveniently forgetting NI would put an extra £1500 on that.

[Johnsond]

17 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Andy, I understand you (and Dave) are lucky enough to have quite a few children, good for you both.

 

Did you pay for their births (all the doctors, midwives etc) privately?

Have they all been educated in private schools from infancy?

Any time they are ill do you pay privately every penny for health care?

Not trying to catch you out, you know where I’m going with this.

 

 

Mick I totally agree with having to put into the pot to get out, I’ve never claimed family allowance or taken any freebies for any of my kids, the ones whom went the uni route have cost me a fortune and are stuck with large student debt themselves. I pay income tax and NI and have done all my life (55 now) 32years in commercial diving game a lot of the time on sched D North Sea taxation so my NI pot is  way off the upper scale. My gripe is the level at which the 41% kicks in up here and the struggle or barriers put in place to keep you toiling. 

[Mick Dempsey]

1 minute ago, Johnsond said:

Mick I totally agree with having to put into the pot to get out, I’ve never claimed family allowance or taken any freebies for any of my kids, the ones whom went the uni route have cost me a fortune and are stuck with large student debt themselves. I pay income tax and NI and have done all my life (55 now) 32years in commercial diving game a lot of the time on sched D North Sea taxation so my NI pot is  way off the upper scale. My gripe is the level at which the 41% kicks in up here and the struggle or barriers put in place to keep you toiling. 

Ok, understood. 
The state paid for your childrens education from 5 to 18 though right?

[trigger_andy]

28 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Conveniently forgetting NI would put an extra £1500 on that.

Not really. I clearly stated income tax. 

[trigger_andy]

35 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Andy, I understand you (and Dave) are lucky enough to have quite a few children, good for you both.

 

Did you pay for their births (all the doctors, midwives etc) privately?

Have they all been educated in private schools from infancy?

Any time they are ill do you pay privately every penny for health care?

Not trying to catch you out, you know where I’m going with this.

 

 

I have no idea where you are going with this.

 

But I understand that the NHS and education systems need paid for. I pay or have paid significant amounts of tax and NI to amply cover this.

 

Regardless, this does not take away from the fact there is a seriously disproportionate amount of tax and NI paid by thought who are seen as higher earners and those on lower wages pay close to feck all. 

[Mick Dempsey]

Anyway, my point (before the wine kicks in) is it’s not just paying in the pot to take out as you put it.

Its paying in the pot knowing you’ll never take it out.

Some people who have no children will pay for other people children’s health care and education, other peoples elderly parents to have care and their arses wiped even though their  own parents may have died inexpensively much younger.

In society, you’re either in or you’re out, you can’t pick and choose, you enjoy earning good money and a safe and healthy environment to raise your kids, then you render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.