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[Johnsond]

Just now, Johnsond said:

Extinction maybe not but do a little bit of research and you will see numbers are dramatically down in regards rural Fox numbers in the UK. Modern sighting technology, comparatively cheap accurate rifles etc etc killing them has become a very efficient and popular pastime. 

No idea why it’s putting the replies up twice ?‍♂️

[Mick Dempsey]

5 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

No idea why it’s putting the replies up twice ?‍♂️

Probably be sorted when Steve does the upgrade.

[Johnsond]

Just now, Johnsond said:

Extinction maybe not but do a little bit of research and you will see numbers are dramatically down in regards rural Fox numbers in the UK. Modern sighting technology, comparatively cheap accurate rifles etc etc killing them has become a very efficient and popular pastime. 

No idea why it’s putting the replies up twice ?‍♂️

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

Did I once say anything to justify any particular form of hunting ??, I’ve stated right from the beginning of this topic that the whole grouse/pheasant thing is not for me at all. Irrational fear ?? You think so. One thing at a time is the anti hunting mentality. 

TBH, we probably need to press the re-set button, don't know about you, but I'm a tad confused.

 

I don't recall if you have entered any plea viz a viz the hunting thing - and by that I mean horse/hound/fox hunting.  I'm plenty clear enough on what I think is your position viz a viz firearms.  Not far apart from my own as it goes.

 

The point I have been keen to progress is that, whilst I do enjoy the pageantry and rural, historic and cultural elements of the hunt (since I'm neither a socialist, a class warrior, a city dweller, a vegan nor averse to eating what I've shot - despite Mr Cropper's chittering) I am unable to treat, with any credence, the argument that fox hunting is necessary, morally acceptable or in any way effective and I've yet to behold any sane argument to the contrary.  

 

Having said all of that, I'm not averse to attending the Boxing Day meet at the Jamaica Inn because (a) it's quite a sight to see (b) it's an important and well attended local social occasion but the (c) is that, secretly, I always rather hope there is a right good ruck and I know which side I'd be battling on.  It kind of wrankles me that, in all the available footage, it seems to be a scruffy, malnourished, nay do well or a little lady that is getting set about by half pissed knuckle dragging genetic missing links (otherwise referred to as the terrier men) and it seems quite an imbalance.

 

Your more recent post about the efficiency of despatching the fox by shot does nothing but reenforce the argument (if ever one were needed) that any one claiming the hunt is an effective means of pest control is clearly delusional.

 

 

 

  

[eggsarascal]

2 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

No idea why it’s putting the replies up twice ?‍♂️

Say again.

[Khriss]

Bloody hell , nasty 

 

Avonmouth water works explosion: 'Multiple casualties' reported

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A witness heard a "very loud explosion" at the treatment works in an industrial area near Bristol.

K

[djbobbins]

Bloody hell , nasty 
 

Avonmouth water works explosion: 'Multiple casualties' reported

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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A witness heard a "very loud explosion" at the treatment works in an industrial area near Bristol. K

Presume there will be an HSE investigation, but I’d hazard a guess at a combination of methane build-up and maintenance work. If it’s not maintenance, why would there be four people working close enough to sadly end up not going home from work today?

[Khriss]

@djbobbins  reprocessing shit basically, the HSE will be well used to that.  But seriously, methane is a lethal gas in many ways and that does not look like the recovery vessels you usually see on sites. So if its be repurposed for that job, could be very nasty legal fallout.  K

[openspaceman]

11 hours ago, djbobbins said:

 

Presume there will be an HSE investigation, but I’d hazard a guess at a combination of methane build-up and maintenance work. If it’s not maintenance, why would there be four people working close enough to sadly end up not going home from work today?

 

I thought methane at first and then wondered if they were clearing out a bin with dried sewage solids and it was dusty.

 

There are a large number of historic cases of explosions in dusty atmospheres where the dust was flammable, e.g. flour mills, saw mills. It only needs a shovel hitting a stone and creating a spark. Dung after all is flammable and used for cooking in some parts of the world.

 

I used to  demonstrate such an explosive conflagration with a candle in a big coca cola bottle and a puffer from a lens cleaner.

[djbobbins]

I thought methane at first and then wondered if they were clearing out a bin with dried sewage solids and it was dusty.
 
There are a large number of historic cases of explosions in dusty atmospheres where the dust was flammable, e.g. flour mills, saw mills. It only needs a shovel hitting a stone and creating a spark. Dung after all is flammable and used for cooking in some parts of the world.
 
I used to  demonstrate such an explosive conflagration with a candle in a big coca cola bottle and a puffer from a lens cleaner.

Yes, dust would be a credible root cause too - and would explain the point about the nature of the vessel.

I grew up only about 3 miles away from the wood treatment plant in Bosley where the explosion happened a few years back; know people who used to work there.

Way back when, I also did work experience in a materials testing lab where they had a toughened steel sphere with measured dosing, spark, pressure meters etc to test powders for explosiveness. It was eye-opening.

Interestingly in industrial environments, the point that I learned was that the primary explosion tends not to be the worst one, as the amount of fuel (dust) suspended in the air is relatively low. The big problem happens if housekeeping is an issue and there is settled dust on surfaces - the first explosion lifts this into the air, meaning there is much more fuel available and any source of ignition means that very shortly after the first explosion a much larger one can follow.