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[tree-fancier123]

I just think TR flooring that bloke in the vid, only took a swing because he didnt look like Tyson. If it was a huge boxer winding TR up, to retaliate could have resulted in instant death. Also the bloke TR punched could have hit his head on the floor and suffered blood on the brain. At least Boris and Gove would have walked away

[Mark J]

8 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

He's a bloke (albeit objectionable to many - and I can't help but wonder if that is a product of their own bias and prejudice) who took the only steps he felt were open to him as a white, working class man with no effective political representation within the existing system to express and highlight the personal concerns that he felt were dominating his life.  

 

Yes he may have been part of a collective which is viewed as football hooliganism, but that was his 'tribe.'  There was no other tribe speaking for him or available to him - in his view.  There are 100,000's across the nation in that tribe and that led to the establishment and growth of the EDL with the common sense of purpose derived from football.  Within that tribe there are elements of hooliganism, crime, drugs and hard racism - what a laugh, I could just as easily be describing any of the current political parties!

 

I'd challenge anyone that has (a) read his book and (b) listened to his Oxford Union address to present a case for despising him based upon anything other than their own bias and prejudice - and that is where the greatest irony and hypocrisy will be exposed.

 

The anger directed towards him should rightly fall at the feet of the politicians that allowed the circumstances to arise where 100,000's of dissatisfied citizens turned their backs on mainstream politics and subscribed to EDL in the absence of any viable alternative.

 

Not at all mucker, they both present very credible opinions and they have both been the subject of systemic and societal persecution for expressing those views.

 

It only 'appears' that I have more affinity for TR rather than MN because TR gets (IMHO an unjustified) bashing by certain elements because of who he is rather than what he says.  If there were threads or posts hating MN that would immediately be classified as racist because of his ethnic origin rather than what he had said.  I'd be just as keen to highlight the need to open the ears and close the eyes whilst listening to his message as I seem to be for TR.

 

We've had this discussion before, TR is immediately perceived as being horrible little tnuc, but that is very easily used to mask the validity and necessity of what he actually says.  His very existence, the rapid and widespread national establishment of the EDL and his continued exposure of apparent systemic societal imbalance is a PRODUCT of political failure.  

Yaxley lennon is a pure shitgibbon. He can't even knock someone out from behind. Hooligan? Wheyaye.

 

Edited June 9, 2019 by Mark J

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

24 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Yaxley lennon is a pure shitgibbon. He can't even knock someone out from behind. Hooligan? Wheyaye.

 

You present a compelling argument Mark....

[Mark J]

29 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

You present a compelling argument Mark....

Thanks.

[openspaceman]

3 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

You present a compelling argument Mark....

Yes being a military man you recognise the wisdom of a pre-emptive strike

[eggsarascal]

Jo Brand getting investigated by the old bill Now.

[David Cropper]

5 hours ago, eggsarascal said:

Jo Brand getting investigated by the old bill Now.

Eggs, if she'd have come out with a racist,  homophobic,  anti feminist joke, the media and the left would have been over her like a rash.Double standards again. I wonder if Katie Piper found it a rib tickler? 

[Khriss]

Don't like J.Brand.  worst sort of 'feminist' . Odd that so much of her hating work  is now getting excused...... step forward jemma beale. K

[eggsarascal]

2 hours ago, David Cropper said:

Eggs, if she'd have come out with a racist,  homophobic,  anti feminist joke, the media and the left would have been over her like a rash.Double standards again. I wonder if Katie Piper found it a rib tickler? 

Danny Baker sacked for a tweet about the royal baby, and investigated by the police, now Jo Brand over a joke. What happened to this free speech everyone keeps banging on about?

[David Cropper]

2 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Danny Baker sacked for a tweet about the royal baby, and investigated by the police, now Jo Brand over a joke. What happened to this free speech everyone keeps banging on about?

It seems to be a one way street.  Criticise the left at your peril and you're shown the door. Imagine the stink if Bernard Manning or Jim Davidson were given free rein on mainstream tv, not my cup of tea these days, but I can remember both of them having folk rolling in the isles in the 60s and 70s, myself included. Times change, often for the better. In this case, I actually quite like Jo Brand, not a big fan of female comics effing and jeffing,  but I realise it seems not to be a big deal these days.  Acid throwing is too sensitive, in my opinion, to joke about in these violent times, there are some very strange people out there who believe what they hear in the media is tantamount to having an excuse to act on it. My brain is hurting now after this. I must lie down before Nursey comes in.