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[AHPP]

For anyone interested in studying the battlefield and coming to their own conclusions on tactics and winning the firefight, I'd suggest google streetview. The girl in orange sandals and the long shirt carries herself with a very agreeable ease.

[Stubby]

What if both " sides " were armed and a fire fight started , when 5o do get there who do they shoot at ? 

Edited 7 hours ago by Stubby

[markieg31]

I will go back to what I said previously. You are less likely to be shot here than the US.

And I would hazard a guess that it's because so many people have guns in the US.

[markieg31]

According to a but of googling you are 40 times more likely to be shot in the US compared to the UK 

[5thelement]

What would you rather have, mass shootings in schools or the ability to do Travis impersonations in the mirror?

[sime42]

A watershed moment.

 

 

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[AHPP]

@markieg31 

 

I'm not interested in the US. I'm interested in surviving someone wanting to stick a screwdriver in my stomach in England. Why should anyone be able to tell me, "No. Run the higher risk or we'll put you in prison."

 

Why should a jewish father in Australia have to just hide his wife and kids behind a bin and hope the shooting stops?

Some bloke steps round the corner and points his rifle at your children first. He's there with nothing. That's not fair.

[Stere]

The more people wondering around with weapons the more people who will get hurt id guess.

 

Your idea that allowing  people to carry would stop violence doesn't make sense to me. And escalation would occur if  everyone carries knifes then people  just start carrying guns etc

 

OK so it might save you individually but as a whole it would cause more carnage a  ans death

 

Common good v private good or self interest are conflicting.

 

 

 

 

[JLA1990]

10 minutes ago, Stere said:

The more people wondering around with weapons the more people who will get hurt id guess.

 

Your idea that allowing  people to carry would stop violence doesn't make sense to me. And escalation would occur if  everyone carries knifes then people  just start carrying guns etc

 

OK so it might save you individually but as a whole it would cause more carnage a  ans death

 

Common good v private good or self interest are conflicting.

 

 

 

 

Agreed - I don’t feel that strongly about guns as I know the reality of anyone having one is very slim. Conversely if owning edc guns etc was legal id have one immediately and so would my wife. 

[5thelement]

44 minutes ago, AHPP said:

@markieg31 

 

I'm not interested in the US. I'm interested in surviving someone wanting to stick a screwdriver in my stomach in England. Why should anyone be able to tell me, "No. Run the higher risk or we'll put you in prison."

 

Why should a jewish father in Australia have to just hide his wife and kids behind a bin and hope the shooting stops?

Some bloke steps round the corner and points his rifle at your children first. He's there with nothing. That's not fair.

That’s why we have very highly trained armed police officers in the UK, with a very efficient reaction speed to these incidents, which are spectacularly rare events.