Vat killing me!

[Stephen Blair]

To the OP you are just in a dip until you find your feet, business is always changing and you need to change with it.

It's great you are going VAT reg, business must be good.

If you feel things are more busy than profit then I would suggest having a price increase and a customer dead wood.

The price increase usually does this for you.

[daveindales]

An example that is not limited to NZ despite the supposed UK / EU welfare controls, I frequently observe similar behaviour much closer to home (even seen the carcass picked up on the loader and dumped in the wooded swamp area which acts as a drain and feeds the water course....)

 

I've seen the odd thing like that. But to be honest, I see the knacker Lorry nearly every day up our area, and I think the vast majority are now disposed of legally around here.

[MattyF]

Every year I see another 100 acres or more of ancient Northumbrian pasture ploughed up..

I visited the farm a few years back I had grown up on and it put me off meat for a few years .. the cow sheds gone and a new fully automated pig unit that opened shutters and doors to go with the time of day and self feeding silos for the animals , inside lay a few dead carcasses amongst the other over crowded pigs it actually made me feel disgusted that any respect seemed to of gone.

If subsidies go this will be the only sort of farming left ,more intensive and more land for wheat... not good.

[skyhuck]

If you haven't a clue mate, don't comment.

 

Its never stopped you

[Mull]

its never stopped you

 

 

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[Justme]

Farmers could receive £14,000 council tax rebate - Farmers Weekly

 

Valuation Office Agency - Council Tax Manual

 

Lol Farmers COULD claim back IF they are in the wrong band. Just like everyone's else can.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Lol Farmers COULD claim back IF they are in the wrong band. Just like everyone's else can.

 

Do you think you might have missed the point?

 

Agreed, anyone can appeal a valuation if they think they have been wrongly apportioned a CT bracket. No dispute there - they just have to produce a body of evidence to convince VOA.

 

However, the point I was highlighting was that domestic dwellings associated with a qualifying agricultural concern are specifically apportioned a CT reduction of valuation by dint of being a hereditament:

 

"...3.3.1 Method summary:

 

• Determine the extent to which the farm is a composite identifying the dwelling(s) to be apportioned

 

• Select sales evidence from the locality of similar age size and character as possible. Former farmhouses would be ideal.

 

• Apply a percentage deduction according to the acreage of the composite land holding. This is to reflect an average value reduction for the domestic element based on size of the holding..."

[Richard 1234]

Do you think you might have missed the point?

 

 

 

Agreed, anyone can appeal a valuation if they think they have been wrongly apportioned a CT bracket. No dispute there - they just have to produce a body of evidence to convince VOA.

 

 

 

However, the point I was highlighting was that domestic dwellings associated with a qualifying agricultural concern are specifically apportioned a CT reduction of valuation by dint of being a hereditament:

 

 

 

"...3.3.1 Method summary:

 

 

 

• Determine the extent to which the farm is a composite identifying the dwelling(s) to be apportioned

 

 

 

• Select sales evidence from the locality of similar age size and character as possible. Former farmhouses would be ideal.

 

 

 

• Apply a percentage deduction according to the acreage of the composite land holding. This is to reflect an average value reduction for the domestic element based on size of the holding..."

 

 

Is this not because most of these houses have to have people who work in agriculture living in them making them worth less than houses without these stipulations?

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Is this not because most of these houses have to have people who work in agriculture living in them making them worth less than houses without these stipulations?

 

That's a question for VOA really Richard - I merely highlighted the potential for reduced CT (on top of many other concessions) which are available in the Ag sector.

 

To expand what I think you're suggesting, and offer a loose comparison, what about the flat above a shop occupied by the shop owner, the landlord's accommodation within a pub, the oatcake retail outlet in a Stokie house.....

 

None of which, so far as I'm aware, warrant specific discounts to council tax by dint of the business where the occupant is obliged to trade from their residence.

 

Or are you talking about Ag ties as a condition of sale?

[eggsarascal]

That's a question for VOA really Richard - I merely highlighted the potential for reduced CT (on top of many other concessions) which are available in the Ag sector.

 

To expand what I think you're suggesting, and offer a loose comparison, what about the flat above a shop occupied by the shop owner, the landlord's accommodation within a pub, the oatcake retail outlet in a Stokie house.....

 

None of which, so far as I'm aware, warrant specific discounts to council tax by dint of the business where the occupant is obliged to trade from their residence.

 

Or are you talking about Ag ties as a condition of sale?

 

 

Point of order M'lord.

 

Oatcake shop...... Although most were the front room of terraced houses, when I were a lad.