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The £100 - £120 day for someone who can cut a tree down without damaging anything, seems reasonable, not a lot more complicated than hedgecutting. Max £4k invested.

 

Someone who is a fast climber, knows tree biology, is good at reductions, even on the biggest trees, and knows which decayed trees can safely be climbed, that is maybe one in twenty working climbers - the top rates are for them, coz no one else can do their job.

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The £100 - £120 day for someone who can cut a tree down without damaging anything, seems reasonable, not a lot more complicated than hedgecutting. Max £4k invested.

 

Someone who is a fast climber, knows tree biology, is good at reductions, even on the biggest trees, and knows which decayed trees can safely be climbed, that is maybe one in twenty working climbers - the top rates are for them, coz no one else can do their job.

 

£100-£120 is £12.50-£15.00/hour working on an eight hour day. If your using your own saws and fuel, paying for your own ppe/training and running a motor it ain't going to last long.

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And this is it. Becoming a GOOD climber does not take a short time. I've been doing this for four years, and I'm average, but I was humbled to work alongside a couple of other tree surgeons recently, who are more productive than myself.

 

A good climber will be able to get a job done in less time than an average one, thus making them worth the extra.

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And this is it. Becoming a GOOD climber does not take a short time. I've been doing this for four years, and I'm average, but I was humbled to work alongside a couple of other tree surgeons recently, who are more productive than myself.

 

A good climber will be able to get a job done in less time than an average one, thus making them worth the extra.

 

So you're still 'newly qualified', so to speak?:biggrin:

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But aren't you charging those same lads out on site for £90 a day? Just going on one of your recent posts.

 

I am not sure I have ever said I would charge out a freelance climber for £90 a day? There is however no reason why you might expect to pay an average £90 a man for team of three; the climber could be on £130, the rescue climber on £85 and the groundie on £55..

 

I rarely use freelancers at the moment. As I have also mentioned in other posts many "freelance" guys would be classed as employed by the powers that be. I therefore employ guys full time with holiday pay, training etc...

 

I admit this alters the way a company operates because my employees all expect to be paid at the end of each month and therefore they need to be bringing in the work.

 

This can lead to devaluing the business as when work is short you will "buy" work, or price jobs very keenly when work is short. You need to, to cover wages. This is not a long term sustainable option but necessary to a certain extent and hopefully being able to do a higher volume of work when the diary is busy makes up for the lean months...

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And this is it. Becoming a GOOD climber does not take a short time. I've been doing this for four years, and I'm average, but I was humbled to work alongside a couple of other tree surgeons recently, who are more productive than myself.

 

A good climber will be able to get a job done in less time than an average one, thus making them worth the extra.

 

I agree, I never got to be better than a competent climber, I now see lads that are more agile in the tree, faster and safer than anyone I saw in the 70s.

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I am not sure I have ever said I would charge out a freelance climber for £90 a day? There is however no reason why you might expect to pay an average £90 a man for team of three; the climber could be on £130, the rescue climber on £85 and the groundie on £55..

 

I rarely use freelancers at the moment. As I have also mentioned in other posts many "freelance" guys would be classed as employed by the powers that be. I therefore employ guys full time with holiday pay, training etc...

 

I admit this alters the way a company operates because my employees all expect to be paid at the end of each month and therefore they need to be bringing in the work.

 

This can lead to devaluing the business as when work is short you will "buy" work, or price jobs very keenly when work is short. You need to, to cover wages. This is not a long term sustainable option but necessary to a certain extent and hopefully being able to do a higher volume of work when the diary is busy makes up for the lean months...

 

And this, Lads, is what your up against.

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