Front Projection Rules for Tractors/Mogs?

[aspenarb]

More than 2 metres,

but not exceeding 3.05

metres.

• Marker boards required (C&U

Schedule 12, para 3)

• Attendant required (C&U Schedule 12,

para 2)

• Marker boards required (C&U

Schedule 12, para 3)

 

These are the load in front rules Eddie which you basically escort yourself with all the correct markers, anything bigger and its a police escort and notice. Really after 2mts out front plus the length of the bonnet its going to be dangerous at T junctions etc because of the sight lines.

 

Bob

[LGP Eddie]

More than 2 metres,

but not exceeding 3.05

metres.

• Marker boards required (C&U

Schedule 12, para 3)

• Attendant required (C&U Schedule 12,

para 2)

• Marker boards required (C&U

Schedule 12, para 3)

 

These are the load in front rules Eddie which you basically escort yourself with all the correct markers, anything bigger and its a police escort and notice. Really after 2mts out front plus the length of the bonnet its going to be dangerous at T junctions etc because of the sight lines.

 

Bob

 

 

Thanks Bob, that's the sort of thing I'm looking for.

 

 

So at 1.2 metres from the link ends it should be ok, but I would fit marker boards and lights anyway.

 

Like I say it really should all be referenced from some point that is readily definable like the front axle centre point?

 

 

The first point of call is a simple mock up by actually using a Transport box, buckrake or the like to track the machine onto and see how it would all sit.

That will give a good base point, but with proper mountings the projection would be well reduced.

 

Just out of interest I googled some of the current weight block/toolbox setups on the market, and to be honest what I have in mind is well within what's been marketed?

 

 

Front Weights by philip watkins

 

 

Eddie.

[Tommy 7840]

Hello eddie i would say the problems could begin like someone else said on here when you get stopped!!! My dad and uncle(Who run an agricultural business) regularly pull two trailers one behind the other and pull the land rover with diesel bowser behind a tractor.My uncle got pulled by the local traffic cops when i was with him and they had an issue with the landrover behind the trailer not having a marker/lighting board as wide as the trailer for some reason!!!!! To be fair its hard to get away with much these days but if your linkage is capable of lifting the digger and the bracket you make is fit for purpose there isnt much they can say! Out of interest what digger are you going to use? ...

[woody paul]

As you say Eddie some big old weights boxs made.

On the lighting thing you can light it up but look at how farback a JCB 3CX head lights are from the bucket edge.

[LGP Eddie]

As you say Eddie some big old weights boxs made.

On the lighting thing you can light it up but look at how farback a JCB 3CX head lights are from the bucket edge.

 

It's a really hard one, as I simply can't yet find exactly what I'm looking for in terms of a base Twin Trac Valtra for a Roofmount and I'd rather wait.

 

I can make good use of a Takeuchi TB016 all year round and have a grab plus rotator perfect for one already.

The Farmi chipper is hardly ever used because of no carrier tractor with crane, but carrying a mini on the front would give me a very flexible one man setup.

 

The Takeuchi is perfect size to suit and has a very close to 90 degree offset that would allow the boom/dipper to stow nicely down the side of the tractor where a loader arm would be.

 

It all sounds a bit mad, but it would provide a really handy unit with decent off road ability and much flexibility on site.

The Valtra will monitor itself with it's Control Stop and the Farmi can now be retrofitted with Radio Remote so I can control the feed from the machine.

 

One man could shift a fair bit around, plus load the chipper effectively under full view of the infeed.

 

As we all know the little Takeuchi's are money in the bank and obviously I have plenty of other uses for one?

 

I did think some sort of fitted cover around the bottom half of the machine to simply draw attention from the fact it was a digger was probably all that was needed to avoid too much attention.

As for the rest I think it's perfect achievable in a very professional way, and if stopped would provoke some serious head scratching as to any possible problems, because at this point I don't see any?

 

 

 

Eddie.

[Tommy 7840]

Fair play you have the same way as thinking as me a nice little digger with a grab and rotator!!! (i did have a thread about having a grab on a mini digger) I havent bought a digger yet but im thinking of a tb 016 or possibly a hitachi zaxis 1.7u but its hard to find a hitachi there are a lot of takeuchis around!! The idea of moving a digger on the linkage is a good idea if the tractor is going to the job..

[Tom D]

Remote control chipper is ace Eddie, I had the heizo on a 210hp new holland last week and was controlling it from the valtra as I fed it. Really handy.

[agrimog]

just remember, doesnt matter how much youve got sticking out the front, exceed 20mph and they'll have you, most cops are getting switched on to tractors and 20mph now

[monkeybusiness]

It sounds like a brilliant idea and set up to me, and in reality probably altogether more useful than a roof mount for chipping (the only downside that I can think of is having to climb into the tractor to reposition, but the fact that you can quickly reposition your 'crane' would more than compensate). I would think that the 3pl mount should be fine legally especially if you go as far as building a proper light board with headlights etc to fit for road use - as you say it's no different to haulage on a trailer in terms of carrying the machine to site. I'm tempted to pinch your idea tbh...

[LGP Eddie]

It sounds like a brilliant idea and set up to me, and in reality probably altogether more useful than a roof mount for chipping (the only downside that I can think of is having to climb into the tractor to reposition, but the fact that you can quickly reposition your 'crane' would more than compensate). I would think that the 3pl mount should be fine legally especially if you go as far as building a proper light board with headlights etc to fit for road use - as you say it's no different to haulage on a trailer in terms of carrying the machine to site. I'm tempted to pinch your idea tbh...

 

Obviously the replies here have sharpened up my thought train on it a bit, but I'd got the main details worked out in my mind.

 

I'd gone for the Takeuchi because of its ability to self load?

What I had in mind was the brackets for the lift arms on the side of the track frame could be simply lined up by tracking into position, Blade behind, arm in front and lift machine very slightly.

Expand the tracks, plus a wiggle with arm if required to square up and you should be spot on for the hook ends.

Controls usually on the front to lift the arms a little and you've got it mounted with minimal effort.

 

I have several places in mind for a top link mount and it shouldn't be too hard to sort.

 

A grab bar setup with a side protection plate to ensure the tractor is well protected somewhere in the area a loader bracket would be should ensure plenty of sturdy universal mounting points.

 

The roof would need to be detachable, and this is simple enough, plus could stow under what I think would be a key part, some sort of well fitting bikini cover to wrap around the base of the machine.

It would take more than a second glance then to work out what it is?

 

Lighting can easily be sorted to suit, and there's no reason it shouldn't take more than a few minutes to have a fully road legal mounting.

Obviously a move to a different part of site could be done very quickly, without requiring the legalities.

 

My thoughts were the same on its versatility versus a roofmount, and obviously you have to get onto the Tractor to move it, but the digger can cover a much greater area plus the big fact of being able to see into the hopper?

 

The fact for me is Tom has exactly the setup I'm working towards, but I need a T series for my work.

However I can hire in the meantime, and a Takeuchi TB016 is something I can always make full use of.

If the setup does me 12 months I doubt I'd lose a penny on a well bought and looked after Takeuchi in that time?

 

Eddie.