Overloaded

[wicklamulla]

19 hours ago, Justme said:

 

 

£900 per head (Medical, theory, hazard, driving, CPC mod 2 & CPC mod 4) & every one can have C1 inc 5 years worth of CPC to get them started.

sounds reasonable.

[donnk]

Could be a tad over there Mr Pikey

 

 

[difflock]

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Edited November 11, 2019 by difflock

[scraggs]

I know it's not tree related but an effort well worth showing

[GA Groundcare]

Not overloaded, but definitely up towards the towing capacity of our Defender yesterday. 
 

Still pulled uphill like a dream. Re map on the 2.4 Puma made the world of difference. 

[Baldbloke]

Not overloaded, but definitely up towards the towing capacity of our Defender yesterday. 

 

Still pulled uphill like a dream. Re map on the 2.4 Puma made the world of difference. 

We went down to Poole and over to Jersey to collect an E class Mercedes estate on an Ifor Williams trailer. With the sides and front of the trailer off it, it weighed 980kg. If I remember correctly the car came in at about 1850kg. The problem was the nose weight. Used a defender too, but an older 300 TDI, and it was from the north of Scotland. It pulled ok too, as long as the hills weren’t too steep.

We actually got followed by a Traffic Police car for ten miles along the motorway. I was sure we were going to get stopped and I was going to have to show I’d worked it all out. It felt like taking a test. Unfortunately I’d had to move the car forward over towards the front twice to stop the weave, so my nose weight probably would have exceeded the allowable 500 kg. It was a long trip, but we didn’t get stopped.

I agreed to buy the car before realising they’d changed the rules over being able to temporarily drive the car in the U.K. on Jersey plates. So although I had gotten the car immediately MOTed and paid the 20% duty and had insurance I technically couldn’t drive it with ‘foreign’ plates.

Just as well anyway as I’d declared the original Jersey registration number and there were two VOSA vans APNRing passing cars. I’m sure plod during his follow had checked me out fully too.

 

[GA Groundcare]

A heavy nose weight can make a Defender look awful with its soft rear coils. The other problem is when the back is squat down low and the lack of weight on the front wheels the steering is very light and the front wheels can lock up very, very easily. You can "get away with it" more so with air suspension

 

We try to get is as well balanced as possible. Not always easy. Vehicles can be tricky as they are obviously nose heavy and long. Something like that E Class estate would want a 16ft trailer to get the car back far enough.

 

We used to have a 200TDI Defender, we had the fuel pump wound up, front mount intercooler, boost pin, silicone boost pipes etc. The injection pump was the limiting factor being on its max. Towing something like a 3T tracked chipper/plant trailer you'd be going up an average hill and go from 4th - 3rd - 2nd and be sat on the limit in 2nd. But it wouldn't pull 3rd.

Even before the remap on our Puma it'll accelerate up the hills with a full load. The 200/300 maybe an engine you can repair yourself on the side of the road and for that its great but for actual proper work its crap. 

Edited November 21, 2019 by GA Groundcare

[Justme]

9 hours ago, Baldbloke said:

so my nose weight probably would have exceeded the allowable 500 kg.

 

That is a very high nose weight limit for a vehicle. Not sure any Landrovers have one that high.

 

It is well in excess of what the trailer would be allowed to have.

[Baldbloke]

A heavy nose weight can make a Defender look awful with its soft rear coils. The other problem is when the back is squat down low and the lack of weight on the front wheels the steering is very light and the front wheels can lock up very, very easily. You can "get away with it" more so with air suspension
 
We try to get is as well balanced as possible. Not always easy. Vehicles can be tricky as they are obviously nose heavy and long. Something like that E Class estate would want a 16ft trailer to get the car back far enough.
 
We used to have a 200TDI Defender, we had the fuel pump wound up, front mount intercooler, boost pin, silicone boost pipes etc. The injection pump was the limiting factor being on its max. Towing something like a 3T tracked chipper/plant trailer you'd be going up an average hill and go from 4th - 3rd - 2nd and be sat on the limit in 2nd. But it wouldn't pull 3rd.
Even before the remap on our Puma it'll accelerate up the hills with a full load. The 200/300 maybe an engine you can repair yourself on the side of the road and for that its great but for actual proper work its crap. 

Putting the E Class over the trailer wheels and leaving little weight over the hitch meant the Defender once got a serious death weave, the wife screaming, and the three lanes pulling back. It really needed some weight over the hitch to be stable. It was the longer Ifor Williams trailer so probably around a 16’ bed plus A frame leading to the hitch.
It would pull 60 mph on the motorway, but on an uphill start it didn’t have much go. I wouldn’t do it again!

[spuddog0507]

47 minutes ago, Big J said:

I had an Ifor quite a few years back. I've not had one since. It wouldn't take much to get it fish tailing. I presently have a tri axle Meredith and Eyre trailer, which is pretty good, but the best I had for heavy towing manners was an Unsinn 14ft trailer from Germany. Twin axle with secondary gas struts on the suspension. It did nearly 30k miles with me, and never, ever fish tailed. Lovely aluminium sides, very smart and ludicrously cheap. Went to the factory in Bavaria in early 2016 with a view to importing them, but Brexit and the slide in the currency buggered that plan.

you could of had at least 3 years coining it in off them trailers ??? if only we had known that the people with in parliment where all going to act like a load of 5 yr old school kids and could,nt make a decision to save lives, parliment at the moment all ways reminds me of the haribo TV add,