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25 minutes ago, sime42 said:

Can we have a teaser image? To generate some product release anticipation, get some names on the waiting list. Guessing it will have a burnt out M24 nut on it somewhere.

 

 

 

I'll ask marketing how much I'm allowed to divulge.

Nothing M24 on it. It's for people who don't want hernias. But yeah. The lashup prototype has that M24 nut on it.

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Personally, I'm a fan of the Rigging Rope Wrench.

70kg version with a 10mm rope.

However, as the rope ages, gets dirty and stiff, you need to use the other end as it won't run as easily.

The 120kg one is much used less.

It requires more weight to work and in general the guys cut n chuck so much the 70kg is sufficient for most situations.

It's particularly good when the access to the trunk is difficult because of a fence or undergrowth.

I personally use it more often climbing with inexperienced groundies.

The Notch Rapid Rig is good but problematic to get spliced onto a fresh rope as it outlasts the ropes I buy it with.

 

 

 

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I find the whole ‘moving the friction up into the tree’ stuff is bollocks tbh.

 

Yes, I know about force and mass applied to dodgy anchors sometimes benefits up top rather than down below solutions, but it’s rare.

Really rare.

So is having a situation where you can’t have a friction device at the base of the tree.

Just move it somewhere else then.

 

Anyone who has a GRCS doesn’t piss about looking at other stuff.

 

I haven’t got one and can’t afford one.

Luckily my mate has and I just pay him when required.

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It's funny how opinion varies on rigging devices. I think it depends on how you're used to working.

Recent years my opinion has been aligned with Mark, but I've had access to grcs or Hobbs and a team of people that know how to use them to their potential, no brainer in my book.

In the past though, I've not had access to the big devices, and like Alex frequently used to work with random people that didn't have the knowledge or skills to be very trusted running ropes so you really look to keep it simple, and I can see the thinking behind Alex's idea.

Interesting idea for sure, it'll be shiny, smooth, tactile, beautiful, looking forward to fondling it!

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9 hours ago, Mark Bolam said:

I find the whole ‘moving the friction up into the tree’ stuff is bollocks tbh.

 

Yes, I know about force and mass applied to dodgy anchors sometimes benefits up top rather than down below solutions, but it’s rare.

Really rare.

So is having a situation where you can’t have a friction device at the base of the tree.

Just move it somewhere else then.

 

Anyone who has a GRCS doesn’t piss about looking at other stuff.

 

I haven’t got one and can’t afford one.

Luckily my mate has and I just pay him when required.

I disagree mate , I’ve done some proper stretchy trees that would have ripped the rigging points out with out the safe block a lot and that is coming in to play a lot more dismantling half dead ash trees over targets.. also  a lot of stuff that has required pre tensioning and lifting, mostly because I only get the jobs others would walk away from and never the easy cream as there are probably more chainsaw operators per square mile in the county around keilder so the easy stuff is dealt with usually for firewood but both devices are a must have for me but most take downs could be done with out either and basic crotch rigging. 

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My biggest issue with the safebloc is that you'll need to be rigging consistent weights for it to work properly. If you've set the friction up top and then you need to rig a lighter piece you'll struggle to let the rope run, unless you had back up to the rigging point to make adjustments. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Regarding the downrigger. You can achieve similar results with a standard PINTO RIG, using the beckett of the pulley. 

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