Ifor Williams woes

[josharb87]

Try the simplest first, clean and lube all the brake cables, on and off 

[aspenarb]

On 18/09/2021 at 08:24, IronMike said:

I'm open to suggestions, and beginning to clutch at straws truth be told. I'm flat out busy and need the trailer to work as it should. Since greasing the temperature has dropped a bit, but when I pull up and check the hubs are definitely hot to touch.

 

 

Fire away oh wise Arbtalk collective!

 

There is no vodoo in trailer brakes, they are either properly adjusted with cables and a coupling that will correctly apply/release the brakes or there is a problem. One of the horsey lot in the yard recently had a mobile trailer "expert" service her horse box, when she pulled in the yard the other day it must have been close to going up in flames, the "expert" had adjusted the brakes so tight they were in bind to the point there was smoke belching from all four hubs. I backed them off a tad when the thing cooled down, problem solved. You may need to jack up the trailer wheel by wheel and check/adjust them yourself, it really is simple stuff.

 

Bob

[dig-dug-dan]

One thing springs to mind, when my tilt bed was loaded up once and I was backing the trailer round a tight turn, it put too much strain on the hitch, and Bent the slider, so then when the trailer was towed loaded and brakes applied, they often jammed on. Just a thought

[IronMike]

And this is why we love Arbtalk!

 

Brilliant replies folks, I'll sift through everything once I'm back home and have time to inspect the trailer properly. Some of the suggestions are definitely new ones to look for. 

 

I'll update progress this coming week.

[dig-dug-dan]

5 minutes ago, IronMike said:

And this is why we love Arbtalk!

 

Brilliant replies folks, I'll sift through everything once I'm back home and have time to inspect the trailer properly. Some of the suggestions are definitely new ones to look for. 

 

I'll update progress this coming week.

It will be nice to find out the cause and who was right!

[Canal Navvy]

I'd be looking for a quiet,straight,level bit of road when I had a load on and prod the brakes enough to feel the overrun brakes come on and then let the lot roll to a halt on its own, and then nip round and look what the hitch is doing.

 

When I was younger and dafter I would have sat on the trailer while someone else drove and observed 

Edited September 19, 2021 by Canal Navvy
Got older, wiser and closer to death

[AngrySquirrel]

On 19/09/2021 at 09:14, IronMike said:

And this is why we love Arbtalk!

 

Brilliant replies folks, I'll sift through everything once I'm back home and have time to inspect the trailer properly. Some of the suggestions are definitely new ones to look for. 

 

I'll update progress this coming week.

How is what your towing it with? ie rear suspension/hitch? As if rear end is sitting too low could be pushing brakes on with nose of trailer pointing down with load so once braked and on the go again it can't regain the backed of stage as any free play is taken up by mech under load.

[htb]

IIRC Mitsubishi Shogun, in previous thread on Near Death Experience, there was a discussion on hitch height as it cannot be adjusted on these. It looked low at the front rather than level.

[Will C]

On a shogun we used to have was fitted with a peddlers hd suspension setup, it sat 1.5-2 inch higher and a little stiffer, it made the world of difference against the standard shogun set up for towing a heavy trailer, rode, handled and the trailer braked better.

[IronMike]

Latest update! So I have absolutely zero time to look into this myself, I’m flat out busy, with a young family at home. And now it’s bloody dark so early, I have even less time!

 

I decided to take it into a different local dealer, with a hope they can sort it. Dropped off on Monday, picked up today and £80 worse off for doing so, low and behold…… it’s worse than it was before! 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
 

So that’s two dealers who have both stripped all the brakes, checked everything else and assured me they are working as they should be. Which leads me back to my initial thought that it was the damper in the coupling causing issue. Both times it’s been at dealers it’s not had weight on. So tomorrow I’m driving down with the Logbullet on the back so they can see first hand what the temperature of the hubs is like. Also it might be easier to see what’s causing issues when weight is on. I’ll be mightily pissed off if it is the damper, mainly with myself, but pissed off nonetheless!