Force of a 250mm fall

[htb]

Rigging lines and climbing lines should not be near each other or near you. If they are re rig.

[Paddy1000111]

2 minutes ago, htb said:

Rigging lines and climbing lines should not be near each other or near you. If they are re rig.

Well, that's all very well and good until something snaps, a redirect breaks, a rigging point breaks. The saw shouldn't be in a position where you get hit, doesn't mean I don't have a first aid pack. You shouldn't be in a position in a tree where you end up injured and unconscious, still have a rescue climber... 

 

Best laid plans of mice and men and all that 

[htb]

Being a bit less ambitious helps when rigging, avoids a lot of the problems you mention and learn how to rig properly.

[openspaceman]

50 minutes ago, htb said:

Sod using a knife or silky for that, if its that big it would get a touch with 200T or whatever saw I'm using.

Having jammed a clutch by  snagging red baler twine I'm wary of cutting any ropes or fabric with a motor  saw.

[Paddy1000111]

24 minutes ago, htb said:

Being a bit less ambitious helps when rigging, avoids a lot of the problems you mention and learn how to rig properly.

I'm confused... Just for reference I have never cut myself with a saw, got caught up in my rigging, had any rigging or anchors snap or had any real "accidents" in general minus the usual silky cuts and general bruises. That doesn't mean however I'm going to remove my rescue knife that's tucked into the harness in a position that it never crosses my mind? 

 

There's a reason some companies and all training companies require you have one on your harness... No amount of planning and training has ever stopped all accidents 

[Pete Mctree]

Sadly, I know many climbers who I would never trust with plastic cutlery near my ropes, never mind something sharp.
I would never entertain a backup device that would leave me unable to  self rescue and so far I have not seen anything that ticks all the boxes for me.

[Will C]

@Paddy1000111 for reference a silky saw will cut a tensioned rope as quick as a chain saw and quicker than a rescue knife. Not saying don’t carry one but I would go to the silky first for a loaded climbing or rigging line first every time. 

[Paddy1000111]

8 minutes ago, Will C said:

@Paddy1000111 for reference a silky saw will cut a tensioned rope as quick as a chain saw and quicker than a rescue knife. Not saying don’t carry one but I would go to the silky first for a loaded climbing or rigging line first every time. 

Never tried it tbh. If I have some spare time I will give it a go on some old climbing rope (as I don't have a condemned rigging rope to hand). Might even try and cut it with my 200t if I fancy having an accident 😂

[Khriss]

11 hours ago, Paddy1000111 said:

Never tried it tbh. If I have some spare time I will give it a go on some old climbing rope (as I don't have a condemned rigging rope to hand). Might even try and cut it with my 200t if I fancy having an accident 😂

Obvs for research purposes video this, and hilarity  ☺️  K