Covid-19

[difflock]

However, how often are we, or "they" going to test HNS nd other staff directly involved, every day, before they start their work, since, unless they, the staff, are going to be kept in sterile accomodation, they stand a chance of catching it between shifts.

Imho, the whole lockdown thing is unworkable, and we may have to/might have been better to have accepted that the virus will run its course.

And less hysteria about deaths, shit happens.

With revised protocols for NHS staff and how often they change masks/protective clothing.

From someone with a daughter working directly with Covid paitents, an 87 year old mother, and a 55 year old wife who has quietly assessed that she would not qualify to be put on a ventilitor, due to her underlying health issues.

Which is to say I got skin in the game.

Marcus

Edited April 2, 2020 by difflock

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, difflock said:

Which is to say I got skin in the game.

Me too plus I'm not so sanguine about the BBC chart showing my personal chances of dying this year have increased from 1% to 10%

[Richard 1234]

17 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

Me too plus I'm not so sanguine about the BBC chart showing my personal chances of dying this year have increased from 1% to 10%

Bloody hell! Where are these charts on the bbc please?

would be good to see outlook for my dad!

thanks

[Khriss]

No magic wand needed. .Gov and managers to get out n do their jobs. Bit different from sitting on the Benches hurling shite at each other. In these days of computers it's saddening. Much manufacturing is robotic. Obvs got the wrong people.   K

[Khriss]

( neighbours in and out all day, with baby, people Obvs leisure shopping in Town, would go up to Epping Forest but it's rammed )

[openspaceman]

1 hour ago, Richard 1234 said:

Bloody hell! Where are these charts on the bbc please?

would be good to see outlook for my dad!

thanks

The chart shows the current chance of dying is a bit over  1% at 70 but statistics from China show that the chances of dying at 70 if you get covid is 8% however the chances increase 1.5 times if you are male. UK predictions based on those dying in hospital  are much better but hospitals are becoming inundated.

[Matthew Storrs]

4 hours ago, difflock said:

However, how often are we, or "they" going to test HNS nd other staff directly involved, every day, before they start their work, since, unless they, the staff, are going to be kept in sterile accomodation, they stand a chance of catching it between shifts.

Imho, the whole lockdown thing is unworkable, and we may have to/might have been better to have accepted that the virus will run its course.

And less hysteria about deaths, shit happens.

With revised protocols for NHS staff and how often they change masks/protective clothing.

From someone with a daughter working directly with Covid paitents, an 87 year old mother, and a 55 year old wife who has quietly assessed that she would not qualify to be put on a ventilitor, due to her underlying health issues.

Which is to say I got skin in the game.

Marcus

'They are leading us to catastrophe': Sweden's coronavirus stoicism begins to jar | World news | The Guardian

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There’s a surreal calm in the last country in Europe to hold out against lockdown. But...

I do wonder about the full on effects of full lock down. Ie short terms effects (Coronavirus deaths) vs long term (shitstorm of economic and widespread hardship). It will be interesting to look back at Sweden’s approach in say 4 months and then again in 2 years to see what the best course of action might have been. 

[TIMON]

'They are leading us to catastrophe': Sweden's coronavirus stoicism begins to jar | World news | The Guardian

WWW.GOOGLE.CO.UK

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There’s a surreal calm in the last country in Europe to hold out against lockdown. But...
I do wonder about the full on effects of full lock down. Ie short terms effects (Coronavirus deaths) vs long term (shitstorm of economic and widespread hardship). It will be interesting to look back at Sweden’s approach in say 4 months and then again in 2 years to see what the best course of action might have been. 

I think the UK government was taking a similar approach but ‘blinked’ rather than stick with it.
Probably when they realised the implications and impact on the front line hospitals, given how badly the NHS had been underfunded (apart from salaries for PHE execs) and mismanaged.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Scandinavian health services are in much better shape than in the UK.

[Stubby]

11 hours ago, Big J said:

Just passed a million cases worldwide and just over 51k dead. 

 

Grim figures.

 

I feel that the USA is going to have the hardest time in the developed world, but I don't even want to think about the consequences of widespread infection in somewhere like India.

 

Edited April 3, 2020 by Stubby

[Guest Gimlet]

Spoke to my brother yesterday (lives near Chipping Norton). His wife is a nurse. She has been posted onto C19 wards so she's now working exclusively with corona patients and the word from the front line is, if you're old or you've got underlying health problems, you're done for.

 

However, the hospital records are not distinguishing between those patients who die of C19 and those who die with it and flu statistics have disappeared off the map so the picture is far from clear..