Knife and gun crime London

[Mark J]

20 minutes ago, sandspider said:

Tricky one, this.

 

Rehabilitation needs to be employed to some extent (help those who want to be helped and can be helped, not rewarding bad behaviour), but so also does strict justice and meaningful punishment. Rehab on its own is not enough, there has to be a stick as well as a carrot.

 

More funding for youth clubs might improve matters, but at the end of the day it's down to the individual in question deciding to stab someone. Some people just don't want to join youth clubs. I grew up in the countryside, there weren't any youth clubs, two buses a day, nearest town 8 miles away etc. - I never joined a gang or stabbed anybody. I did light the occasional fire, mess around with an air rifle etc. but nothing that would hurt anybody else.

I'm not advocating 'Youth Clubs'. I'm talking about funded groups with trained specialists who deal with 'problem' children.  Youth services.  There used to be funding and governmental support for these organisations, but they no longer exist due to lack of investment.

[sandspider]

I'm not referring just to youth clubs, and I'm sure you're right about lack of funding. But there has to be some personal responsibility too.

[scotspine1]

Can we speed this up?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[eggsarascal]

1 hour ago, difflock said:

Nowt new folks!

see link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_razor_gangs

For deterrance, hang a few, to encourage the others, start with the clearly guilty, caught red-handed ones obviously, and  regardless of age.

Wasn't the murder rate higher when we used to hang people?

[Mark J]

49 minutes ago, sandspider said:

I'm not referring just to youth clubs, and I'm sure you're right about lack of funding. But there has to be some personal responsibility too.

Aye, I agree with you. However until things change we're going to need these services in place.
If people feel they have no place in society, then they'll make their own or get coerced into someone elses.



 

Edited June 17, 2019 by Mark J

[Ratman]

On the news (granada northwest not the bbc, so i believe it more ?) 35+ cars along a street in manchester have had their tyres slashed, both on the one side minimum, thought to be done by a group of teenagers at night. Set of low life pricks!!!

They carry a knife but cause no injury?!!

SO..... Is it still alright to carry a knife, even if you have no intentions of using it to cause harm (physically to people or animals)???

In my opinion you should be licensed to carry one, same as you have to be in possession of a firearm etc. That way, any crime committed by using one in a incorrect manner means you get a straight outright charge in court!

In this instance the little wankers should be charged for using a knife in a incorrect manner, causing criminal damage, charged and made to pay for each and every persons loss of earnings / time and upheaval, AND have their fingers broken on both hands for good measure!

[AHPP]

On the news (granada northwest not the bbc, so i believe it more ?) 35+ cars along a street in manchester have had their tyres slashed, both on the one side minimum, thought to be done by a group of teenagers at night. Set of low life pricks!!! 

They carry a knife but cause no injury?!!

 

SO..... Is it still alright to carry a knife, even if you have no intentions of using it to cause harm (physically to people or animals)???

 

In my opinion you should be licensed to carry one, same as you have to be in possession of a firearm etc. That way, any crime committed by using one in a incorrect manner means you get a straight outright charge in court!

 

In this instance the little wankers should be charged for using a knife in a incorrect manner, causing criminal damage, charged and made to pay for each and every persons loss of earnings / time and upheaval, AND have their fingers broken on both hands for good measure!

 

 

 

1) I carried a knife near 35 cars today and slashed the tyres of none of them.

2) Some cunt recently walked down my mate’s road and kicked the pavement side wingmirror off every car. Should the perpetrator need a licence for his feet? Should I?

 

[Ratman]

1) I carried a knife near 35 cars today and slashed the tyres of none of them.
2) Some cunt walked down my mate’s road and kicked the pavement wingmirror off every car. Should the perpetrator need a licence for his feet? Should I?

Little immature of you regards the feet comment. But in answer to it, NO. That “cunt” as you brand them should be dealt with under criminal activities act.
Carrying a knife is way different.

Using your own ethos then.... your saying we shouldnt need to have a licence to carry a firearm???? [emoji849][emoji849][emoji849]

[Ratman]

I’d happily break his ankles though [emoji106]

[Ratman]

Before anyone falls into the trap of equating carrying a knife with knife crime, remember they’re not the same. Carrying a knife and not using it for crime is not criminal. Same for guns.

Think you kinda answered my question in one of your own posts. [emoji122]