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Knife and gun crime London

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3 minutes ago, felixthelogchopper said:

Like I said, reductio ad absurdum is a very poor argument, even more so when you keep using it over and over again. How about answering the question I asked you about taking a knife into a nightclub? Yes, it's legal, but it it is not going to be an acceptable argument for an inappropriate thing to have in your pocket when you have no reason for having it. You're talking about being bloody minded to protect your liberties, I'm talking about employing some common sense and seeing that there is no good reason for a kid to take a knife to school.

I know what reductio ad absurdum is and I'm not doing it. My argument that knives don't leap out of pockets and do harm themselves is a logical answer to your suggestion that they might. As for the nightclub, I wouldn't EXPECT to be let in anywhere. Private property, contractual terms. It so happens that I've taken a knife into loads of clubs and haven't stabbed anyone. The time I wore a burka out in Sunderland was probably more dangerous. I left my bomb vest at home though. Just as well. It might have gone off by itself.

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3 minutes ago, AHPP said:

I know what reductio ad absurdum is and I'm not doing it. My argument that knives don't leap out of pockets and do harm themselves is a logical answer to your suggestion that they might. As for the nightclub, I wouldn't EXPECT to be let in anywhere. Private property, contractual terms. It so happens that I've taken a knife into loads of clubs and haven't stabbed anyone. The time I wore a burka out in Sunderland was probably more dangerous. I left my bomb vest at home though. Just as well. It might have gone off by itself.

I think you are, given that you just continue extending thing to the ridiculous to make your point. I think we just need to disagree on whether kids should take knives to school.

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21 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Knives or guns these mainly young lads are killing one n other for laughs. One kid dead another doing a fairly long stretch. Something needs to change.

I'm inclined to believe it's drug business related. What do you reckon?

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12 minutes ago, AHPP said:

I'm inclined to believe it's drug business related. What do you reckon?

I've been of the mind for a long time that all drugs should be decriminalised, take the money out of it to a certain degree, and make drugs safer for those who choose to use them. With that there would be less drug related crime. Would these kids still knive/shoot each other... probably!

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4 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Hard labour, splitting rocks in a quarry, earn your food and rest through compliance. 

Brilliant!, modern day slavery. Feck rehabilitating them.

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23 minutes ago, felixthelogchopper said:

I think you are, given that you just continue extending thing to the ridiculous to make your point. I think we just need to disagree on whether kids should take knives to school.

This thread was started about people hurting each other and the causes and you're concerned about schoolkids' stick whittling tools. Yeah, agree to disagree.

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13 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

I've been of the mind for a long time that all drugs should be decriminalised, take the money out of it to a certain degree, and make drugs safer for those who choose to use them. With that there would be less drug related crime. Would these kids still knive/shoot each other... probably!

Maybe they would. With the supermarkets cornering the drug market, they'll turn to competing for sales of moody carbon credits or something.

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1 minute ago, AHPP said:

This thread was started about people hurting each other and the causes and you're concerned about schoolkids' stick whittling tools. Yeah, agree to disagree.

No, I'm concerned about kids taking knives into school for no good reason but you're too stubborn to see that, just being concerned with proving your point. If you think they are taking them in for whittling sticks or cutting up fruit then you are either incredibly naive or remarkably stupid. My initial post was about teenage boys taking them into school for no good reason. Fortunately the school had a bit more sense about it than you seem to.

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