Petition for legislation for winter and all season tyres

[AHPP]

Nothing will stop some people doing stupid stuff. There's already legislation that says it's illegal to crash into people and some people still do it. That's just life. But most people go about their lives not wronging others because they know they'll lose their house if they do. That's motivation.

The point I've been trying to make is not to reach for the government to fix all problems (yours or others'). It just gives them the idea that they're capable and wanted, which they're not. If they did legislate on what you want them to, the odds are that tyre prices would go up, crashes would go up and your wife's breasts would shrink.

 

[Big J]

I've let the petition die as I don't think that I worded it desperately well, but can I encourage people to think about the merits of all season tyres, especially in light of the winter that we've had. 

 

With the all seasons on the car, I've quite literally left other vehicles standing whilst driving in the snow. A hill on a main road about two miles from us had a good 6 inches of slushy snow on it back when we had the full fat beast from the east. I met a Transit reversing down telling me I'd never get up and left a Clio behind me, stuck. Our car continued on without me even noticing the snow. 

 

So, if you don't live on the south coast, do consider all season tyres when you next replace them. Not only will they provide you with better traction through the colder months, but in moderate snowy conditions you'll keep moving effortlessly whilst the cars on summer tyres can't.

Edited March 18, 2018 by Big J
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[Big J]

I'll get on my soap box and dig up this thread again! 

 

This video from Gloucestershire is a day or so old, but it really does illustrate how comically awful summer tyres are in winter conditions. 

 

We've had conditions like this here in Sweden repeatedly over the last month with no issues whatsoever. 

 

Drivers crash in Gloucestershire heavy snow

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Video footage shows cars piling up and a bus crashing as a cold snap in the UK brings icy and snowy weather.

 

[GarethM]

Sadly a lot of drivers lack the common sense we had in years gone by and don't alter the driving style.

 

We don't need winter tyres here, people just need to use common sense. I'm a country lad who can 99% of the time get further than most idiots driving posh 4x4s. High gear and use the clutch to start etc.

 

You can always tell on an icy day when people are bumper to bumper at traffic lights, it's a wtf leave space as you watch them slip en slide!.

Edited December 13, 2022 by GarethM

[Mick Dempsey]

8 minutes ago, Big J said:

I'll get on my soap box and dig up this thread again! 

 

This video from Gloucestershire is a day or so old, but it really does illustrate how comically awful summer tyres are in winter conditions. 

 

We've had conditions like this here in Sweden repeatedly over the last month with no issues whatsoever. 

 

Drivers crash in Gloucestershire heavy snow

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Video footage shows cars piling up and a bus crashing as a cold snap in the UK brings icy and snowy weather.

 

Well yeah, but it happens every year in Sweden and very rarely in the UK. Once every 7 years or so?

People are used to those conditions in Sweden, so they either have the appropriate tyres or vehicles or they stay at home and make porno films.

 

[GarethM]

If I had aylar at home, think the car would get SORN.

[doobin]

Can’t beat a winter tyre even just for wet muddy back roads. 
 

im a big fan of Nokian Weatherproof. Cheap but good, they’ve worn well. 

[trigger_andy]

3 hours ago, Big J said:

I'll get on my soap box and dig up this thread again! 

 

This video from Gloucestershire is a day or so old, but it really does illustrate how comically awful summer tyres are in winter conditions. 

 

We've had conditions like this here in Sweden repeatedly over the last month with no issues whatsoever. 

 

Drivers crash in Gloucestershire heavy snow

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Video footage shows cars piling up and a bus crashing as a cold snap in the UK brings icy and snowy weather.

 

Winter tyres are great for when you actually need them. I loved my Studded Tyres in Norway but for the 5 years I was there I needed them for less than 10 days a season and that was because I was going out to a Cabin. Sometimes only one day. Was a fair hassle to change wheels over for a few days a season. Of course many locations in Norway need them for the whole Winter Season. 
 

There’s not been a year since I’ve been back in Scotland where I’ve needed Winter Tyres for more than a few days. Last year it was a single day. You really can’t enforce separate tyres on people living on an island that rarely sees snow anymore. Most folk can hardly keep a car on the road as it is without the added expense of adding another set of wheels and tyres into the equation. The U.K. is not Scandinavia. 

[Big J]

3 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

Winter tyres are great for when you actually need them. I loved my Studded Tyres in Norway but for the 5 years I was there I needed them for less than 10 days a season and that was because I was going out to a Cabin. Sometimes only one day. Was a fair hassle to change wheels over for a few days a season. Of course many locations in Norway need them for the whole Winter Season. 
 

There’s not been a year since I’ve been back in Scotland where I’ve needed Winter Tyres for more than a few days. Last year it was a single day. You really can’t enforce separate tyres on people living on an island that rarely sees snow anymore. Most folk can hardly keep a car on the road as it is without the added expense of adding another set of wheels and tyres into the equation. The U.K. is not Scandinavia. 

 

My original post was suggesting all season tyres, which offer the best of both worlds. The climate in the UK is obviously very different to Scandinavia, but equally, the Scandinavians get through winter with a lot less drama. 

Scenes of cars sliding sideways down minor hills are ridiculous. Totally avoidable 

 

[trigger_andy]

Just now, Big J said:

 

My original post was suggesting all season tyres, which offer the best of both worlds. The climate in the UK is obviously very different to Scandinavia, but equally, the Scandinavians get through winter with a lot less drama. 

Scenes of cars sliding sideways down minor hills are ridiculous. Totally avoidable 

 

I see loads of accidents in Stavanger year in year out in the winter. That’s with enforced Winter Tyres. There’s idiot drivers all over the world. I don’t think all season tyres would make a blind bit of difference to folk sliding down hills, dedicated Winter Tyres maybe, Studs yes.