Loading big wood..Domestic arb..

[benedmonds]

32 minutes ago, aspenarb said:

Roughnecks are an excellent piece of kit, some 4x4`s among them as well. Lad up the road has one and its got the tow pack with it so no trailer is needed . Mick Dundee made up a fork carriage for it which clips in where the skip goes.

 

I quite like them.. Looks like you can pick them up for under £2000. but 980cm wide..

I am in a dilemma now I was thinking a tracked skip loader as they get down to 680cm wide but that looks pretty useful.

 

I went through the 800 jobs we have completed in 2017 and reckon we would have used a really small loader on 52 those, a bigger loader like a multi one on 20 and a digger on 15.. 

 

It's not that straight forward as obviously the jobs that the bigger loader could have been useful were generally multi day jobs worth a lot more then the ones we would have used the small loader..  and the more important point is that I might have lost jobs to people with better kit.. Although I have never seen anyone in this area so think it unlikely to be a big issue. 

 

[Joel77]

I use a transit tipper with a tail lift & iveco daily hook loader, just drop bin off and the boys can roll big rings straight in to it 

 

both trucks work well, obviously if there’s access the bobcat or Digger would be used 

 

Next tool on the list is hiab with a grab 

[Will Heal]

What happened to lads who could just lift big logs?!

Milled an ash butt for a customer today, six planks about 10 feet long 20 inches wide two inches thick. Heavy boards , made me puff, I’m not the biggest chap in the world but we managed to carry 2 boards 50 yards to stack in the shed and he’d hurt his back after the 2nd one! C’mon! I’m 36, only had a bad back for 3 days about 7 years ago, he is 21! Always moaning he is ill or aching! I would have struggled those boards in and gone home happy, now I have the problem of four boards left at the bottom of the hill.

Probably struggle them up on my own, in the dark after work next week.

Just try harder, man up and get on with it.

I was taught to carry timber by a slight fellow when I was 16. I said ‘ how can you lift that?!’

‘Wirery strength’ he said.

Where the f**k has that idea gone?!

Rant over

Thanks

Will

To be fair he is a good lad and pick stuff up quick , good on a saw, just can’t lift or run back from the chipper[emoji23]

[woody paul]

22 hours ago, benedmonds said:

800 jobs we have completed in 2017

How many 

[benedmonds]

9 minutes ago, woody paul said:

How many 

It's why I don't have time to do any real work these days..

[Joe Newton]

What happened to lads who could just lift big logs?!
Milled an ash butt for a customer today, six planks about 10 feet long 20 inches wide two inches thick. Heavy boards , made me puff, I’m not the biggest chap in the world but we managed to carry 2 boards 50 yards to stack in the shed and he’d hurt his back after the 2nd one! C’mon! I’m 36, only had a bad back for 3 days about 7 years ago, he is 21! Always moaning he is ill or aching! I would have struggled those boards in and gone home happy, now I have the problem of four boards left at the bottom of the hill.
Probably struggle them up on my own, in the dark after work next week.
Just try harder, man up and get on with it.
I was taught to carry timber by a slight fellow when I was 16. I said ‘ how can you lift that?!’
‘Wirery strength’ he said.
Where the f**k has that idea gone?!
Rant over
Thanks
Will
To be fair he is a good lad and pick stuff up quick , good on a saw, just can’t lift or run back from the chipper[emoji23]

are you sure it's not a case of "the older I get the better I was"?

[matelot]

Use tail lift on one vehicle to load arisings onto back of another vehicle?

 

Second hand skip lorry? Use skip lifting apparatus to lift arisings into skip?

[Green wood]

 

What about option 7. Using a hook loader. Iveco make a hook loader gross 7 tons, The 70c18, it has can tow 3.5 tons and is the same size body as the Iveco 35c15, not the euro-cargo lorry shape, it will fit into any domestic job driveway or space you can get a 3.5tonner into. This would allow you to offload the roll off body onto the driveway and forgo a skip pavement license. It would also mean on a 2 day job the body could be left on the driveway if advantageous. Or roll off bodies dropped on multiple jobs.

With a well thought out design two bins could be used, both brought to site at the start of the day, the second body being slightly smaller than the first and sit securely into it. One trip for two bins, although two return trips, or  save committing two vehicles to site for the day. 

A box style roll off body would lend itself well to tree surgery. Around 5 inches to the ground (when offloaded) allowing for the framework underneath, large sections could be walked or rolled in, or ramped up on an arb trolley. Or with a removable tailgate ramp no additional ramps needed.

The body will tip well before it starts to offload, some bodies will tip without rolling off, as well as tip and offload giving you a steeper angle.

The stein arb trolley will fit on most domestic jobs with sub 30 inch gates, taking the pulling handle off and balancing long stem sections over the axel will mean where access allows long sections can be taken out from the back garden to the front and loaded at low level into the roll off body.

Still manual handling but might take some of the strain off backs and bodies and be more time effective, saving cutting smaller and cleaning up after the cuts. The trolley is cheap in comparison to a mini loader, digger etc, but the hook loader a more specialist bit of kit.

I suppose it all depends on the scale of the jobs and what jobs are going to rob you of the most time if you don't have a particular bit of kit.

Might not be useful for your business though. 

 

 

[scbk]

I would say get a muck truck and see if that's much help to you. Fairly cheap and cheerful, and don't really mark grass. Can also be used for moving about trailers etc

[Johnsond]

Hi All

As has been said like all things in life there is no one  perfect tool to do every job. My own solution was put together to fit my own circumstances i.e. personnel use primarily oversize lumps for milling. Basically its fag packet engineering but put together reasonably well, not perfect but it does what I need it to do and cuts the manual handling element down dramatically. most of the cost came from the rams and hyd pump I was very lucky in that the winch came out of a skip and was easily repairable plus I did the cutting and tacking up myself to keep costs down . Got the pins etc machined by a mate in inverness who does great one off machining/welding stuff at very decent prices proper old school grab a brew and chat about it and stay until its done type of set up. Not the best of pics but im sure you get idea of it, basically there's a snatch block on A frame that  winch wire is passed though once log is up on back of trailer I drop the wire out of the snatch block and normally just pull it on although a couple of times I've used a small chain block off the A frame to get the log horizontal. Like I say possibly not everyone's cup of tea but I looked at HI AB type set ups and the nose weight etc. issues put me off plus costs were too high. Total cost to me has been around the 650-700 mark up to now.