Staff issues

[agg221]

thinking about it, surely it's "OK" to discriminate against certain groups if they physically cant do the job?

 

I cant see a person in a wheelchair being very good at climbing trees with a chainsaw...

 

I worked with someone that was let go because he was in his seventies and literally couldn't climb the scaffolding.

 

These are not examples of discrimination. Discrimination in employment is selecting staff on grounds which are not relevant to their ability to do the job to the required standard with reasonable adjustments.

 

A blind person could not drive a lorry so this would not be discrimination - it is ability to do the job. However you could not reject someone in a wheelchair from a call centre job just because you wanted to avoid the cost of fitting a ramp up some steps. However you could if you were based in a top floor office with no lift and no reasonable way to install both primary and emergency access routes.

 

You cannot reject applicants on grounds of things you suspect they may do based purely on stereotypes and speculation.

 

Alec

[Richard 1234]

These are not examples of discrimination. Discrimination in employment is selecting staff on grounds which are not relevant to their ability to do the job to the required standard with reasonable adjustments.

 

 

 

A blind person could not drive a lorry so this would not be discrimination - it is ability to do the job. However you could not reject someone in a wheelchair from a call centre job just because you wanted to avoid the cost of fitting a ramp up some steps. However you could if you were based in a top floor office with no lift and no reasonable way to install both primary and emergency access routes.

 

 

 

You cannot reject applicants on grounds of things you suspect they may do based purely on stereotypes and speculation.

 

 

 

Alec

 

 

While that is all true could you not pick who you want to do the job and then be accused of bias for just about anything by the "losing" candidates?

 

 

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[Johny Walker]

or it could be the employers the issue not the employees

[skyhuck]

or it could be the employers the issue not the employees

 

How many do you employ?

[agg221]

While that is all true could you not pick who you want to do the job and then be accused of bias for just about anything by the "losing" candidates?

 

 

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You could, which is where your CV assessments and interview records come into play. So long as you can show what aspect(s) of their skills or approach made them less suitable on balance you are fine, apart from the hassle.

 

Around 17yrs ago we had someone try it on on race grounds. We were able to show that their qualifications were not as good a fit as the person who was appointed. It later turned out that they had been making a living out of this and the police got involved. I am not aware of any since and we have had several thousand applicants, so it doesn't appear to be too common.

 

Alec

[Johny Walker]

How many do you employ?

 

why ?? how many do you employ ??

[skyhuck]

why ?? how many do you employ ??

 

My Co employs 3.

 

I can very much relate to the comments made by employers on here. I just wondered how much experience you had, as you appeared to be disagreeing.

[James Atkinson]

This is my two pence worth.

All based on them being self employed.

Payments in Lincolnshire

Groudie with tickets £80-110

Climber £120-150

Now onto finding the right guy. No simple answer but I would highly recommend getting on social media and following loads of tree surgeons (preferably Instagram over Facebook) this sounds ridiculous I know but you you can tell they love there job by what they post and that is the biggest thing in this game, finding someone who loves it. You can just tell by there pictures if they take pride in what they do. When I was contract climbing I found a number of jobs just from this exact thing, I love climbing, I'm a geek about it, hence I'll try my best. Keep searching and making contacts it will come 👍 the only problem is the best ones are always in demand even groundies

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

This is my two pence worth.

All based on them being self employed.

Payments in Lincolnshire

Groudie with tickets £80-110

Climber £120-150

Now onto finding the right guy. No simple answer but I would highly recommend getting on social media and following loads of tree surgeons (preferably Instagram over Facebook) this sounds ridiculous I know but you you can tell they love there job by what they post and that is the biggest thing in this game, finding someone who loves it. You can just tell by there pictures if they take pride in what they do. When I was contract climbing I found a number of jobs just from this exact thing, I love climbing, I'm a geek about it, hence I'll try my best. Keep searching and making contacts it will come 👍 the only problem is the best ones are always in demand even groundies

 

 

Good post that 👍🏻

[eggsarascal]

What do a Two man gang with chipper and Transit go out for?