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Thought others might be interested to hear about quarter sawing an oak log last week using two Alaskan mills and a bandsaw mill. The milled timber will be for my own and a friend's use for furniture making once seasoned and my aim was to maximise the yield of book matched ray flecked heartwood boards. Didn’t realise until recently that although quarter sawn boards can have the growth rings between 90 degrees down to 45 degrees. Ray flecked boards, a feature of arts and crafts style furniture, need growth rings between 90 degrees down to 75 degrees. For the past couple of years I’d been looking for an oak log nearby, at least 30 inches diameter, about 10 feet long and straight, suitable for quarter sawing. Recently I heard of one being felled a few minutes walk from home! Tree was still living, but at the top of a steep bank and leaning over a drive way and adjacent house. So it needed to be felled. Concerned about nails in a garden tree. Also, unsure if it grew at an angle, i.e. might be reaction wood, or if the top of the bank had started to give way in recent years and it was vertical for most of it’s life, so no reaction wood? Also, a visible scar 18 feet up where a large branch had snapped off raised the risk of heart rot? Lots of reasons to dismiss it as a firewood log, but decided to mill it. The bottom 18 feet from ground level to the scar was felled in one length, at my request, It tapered from 40 inches to just over 2 feet diameter, DBH about 34 inches. Cut it into two 9 foot lengths as too heavy to move in one piece and it was lying at a step angle on the bank so not suitable for chainsaw milling where it landed after felling. Bottom section tapered from 40 inches to 30 inches, and once felled and cut to length I could see the pith was reasonably centred and no obvious defects from old branches or rot. Looked ideal! The local sawmill (only 2 miles from home) were happy for me to do some chainsaw milling at their yard, a few preparatory cuts, before final milling on their bandsaw. The bottom, largest section will be quarter sawn. Took a while to work out the best sequence of milling and after several options, the attached sketch is working so far. The chainsaw milled cuts, now completed, are bold lines, and the bandsaw cuts, still to be done, are the thin lines. TH quarter saw milling.pdf Started by rolling the log using a farm jack, so a large shake was vertical, more or less aligned with one of the proposed chainsaw cuts Then freehand trimmed the flare on both sides using a chainsaw so my Alaskan mill would fit. Then trimmed the bottom end flat and square, followed by drawing vertical, horizontal and diagonal guidelines on both ends, all meeting at the pith. Then painted both ends with 2 coats PVA. Top slab, mostly sapwood, was removed with my Alaskan mill to create a flat straight face, parallel to the pith. Then the log was milled full width through the pith. My Alaskan mill started as a small log mill with an MS171 (14 inch bar) bought years ago. Then upgraded it to an MS391 with 20 inch bar for milling, and about 10 years ago changed it into a 24inch mill using additional parts plus an MS661. This log was a good excuse to buy longer 48 inch rails, a 42 inch bar and two full skip rip chains, all from Chainsawbars. So I can now mill up to 36 inches width. Amazed how quickly the MS661 cut this average 32inch width of oak with the new set up. The top slab was raised onto wood blocks, then cut in half along the vertical guideline, again following the pith, using my Alaskan mini mill with the depth set so that it didn’t cut into the bottom section. Some lovely ray flecked figure on this cut! After rolling off the two halves of the top slab, the bottom slab was halved using the mini mill. One edge of each quarter was then freehand trimmed the full length with a chainsaw, parallel to the diagonal guidelines, so they will sit flat on the bandsaw bed with the pith parallel to the bed. So, that’s the log quartered and ready for bandsaw milling into 30mm and 40mm planks. Based on the 90 to 75 degree limits, might get as many as 16 ray flecked boards, i.e. four matched boards from each quarter. I’ll keep my fingers crossed. Quite time consuming and all done alone without lifting gear which was hard going for an ‘old age pensioner’. The quarters have been pressure washed to remove moss, soil and maybe stones. Planning the band sawing in a week or so. Just need to make a ply board with 45 degree blocks to support the quarters for horizontal cuts. In the meantime the quarters are covered to keep the sun off and minimize the risk of surface checking. Will post more pictures in due course. Andrew
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just a photo of a straight piped t cab lorry like nothing
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what make them famous so they can be headbutted and then stabbed to death?
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good point about the TV shows - see below, this SP fellow, never worked as a tree cutter, always offering pay related advice to those who do - personally I think SP needs need to be pulled apart by giant octopuses ( but I know it's wrong of me to think that) and the 42, always rushes to help SP, not quite as bad as collaborating with the Nazis
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If a job like this was being advertised wouldn't it be something like £30k+ ?
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I had the distels with Velcro upper and lower for about ten years. Bought the carbon click version 5 years ago and never looked back, or regretted it for a moment.
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We are looking for a groundsman to help with tree works, hedge / shrub trimming and waste clearing in the Waterlooville area. Chainsaw certificate and driving license preferred but not essential. 02392591138 07849790565
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Of sorts, I just like the the tone. More blues orientated than anything else. and +1 for elexirs.
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Morning, fresh blue sky day here. Heading to try and loosen an Allan bolt and see where the oils leaking from on the grapple saw this morning then hopefully just tighten something up and get on and finish the job.
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Beinda joined the community
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Morning all, First real frost of the season here. Going to be a fine day. Finishing off a job from last week today. Didn't fancy doing the climbing when it was chucking it down. Have a good week.
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Good morning Arbtalkers 😊
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I had the same back in the spring . Mouse chewed a bit about a yard long in the loft .
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Yes it was Rick . Elixir Nanoweb 9s electric on everything for me . Even on the two Tanglewood Tw45 s . I find Elixir hold their tone and tune for longer than other brands . ( and they bend nicely ! )
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Morning Team! Awake and got a list of stuff I need to do this week and already changed the plan. Was going to old folks but then remembered that it is Tom's birthday so will delay visit. He is off drag racing in the states again soon so present will just be a wedge of yankie cash! Have a good week and do it safely! Wooden, Emma, Knee.
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Good Morning. Soon be getting the coffee flask out rather than cool bag and water. Have a great start.
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Are you a bit of a " Jazzer " then ? what with the flat wounds ...