5thelement
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Unless you know a scouser. 👍
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You would think with the years of development Stihl put into the 500i, someone would have noticed this ‘need’ earlier.
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Is that the thing you use to measure the size of the fence panel you need to replace?
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Never seen a tree surgeon sned in 30 years. 😂
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We already operate a points based asylum system, it just takes months or even years to process people, all the time they are in limbo and a financial drain, can’t work but not deported either. Speed this up, get legal people working or illegal gone.
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The people you voted for as in The Conservatives, they are still in charge aren’t they? Thankfulky ‘geniuses’ like yourself will set the record straight and vote the same bunch in, well done. 😂
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Wasn’t Brexit supposed to put an end to all this, regain control of our Borders and other such bo**ocks? Ive said it before, the likes of vegan Karen down the health food shop do not have any say over what the Royal Navy can do in the channel, that’s down to the people in charge, the people you voted for. Wouldn’t it be better to hold them to account rather than continually pointing the finger at everyone else?
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Posing the question on the local Facebook groups seems to be the most effective way of getting a positive result for non French speakers here.
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Should have voted for Brexit. Regain our Borders. 😂
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Why are Horticultural professionals SO devalued?
5thelement replied to Trailoftears's topic in Landscaping
I started my Forestry/Arb career after working in the landscaping side, design and build, for a number of years, largely due to a lifelong interest in plants, trees, nature and biology. I never once made any career decisions based on financial reward, if I was money orientated I would have gone into advertising, media, IT or Politics. If you want to make money from horticulture, hire a lockup and fill it full of skunk. -
I think it’s still worth a phone call as they are so convenient to you. The website seems to indicate access to good sites, see what you can pick up about the course, who is running it at what their background is, they may hire freelance instructors in specifically to run them. Interesting that they aren’t showing dates for CS32’s in the pipeline though.
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I have my doubts wether many chainsaw trousers, no matter what the rating, would stop a full chat 500i on an 8 pin sprocket, running a 15” bar before an injury occurs, combine that with the poor balance and potential for ridiculous kickback and you have a recipe for problems, hence I wouldn’t be happy accepting a saw set up like that on a basic felling course/assessment on grounds of safety.
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I don’t know anything about them, it all looks shiney and new, and very Arb biased. It depends on what kind of training you require for your job. If you want to dig a bit deeper into the timber harvesting side, I would source a Forestry instructor rather than Arb based, I don’t know anyone to recommend in your area off the top of my head.
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If you mean I have the discretion to accept a 16” light type bar (which has a 15” cutting maximum if the dogs are present) and is now standard on most stock MS261, in an assessment, yes I do, hardly flouting any regs now is it. Apart from bar length, what is the other criteria you keep banging on about?
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Where are you based?
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I regularly did Winter work on the Ashdown Forest with a team clearing regen, mainly Birch and Scots Pine. The terrain looked quite similar, wet, uneven, deep soft pockets and tough grassy sods with Heather growing out of it, not great for showing off the capabilities of a machine like that. We used to stamp the grass low around the tree base, cut with the chainsaw, spray the stump then make stacks for the tractor and grab and bundle up to take off site to burn. Time consuming, pretty boring, but fantastic landscape to work in, we could clear a fair area over the season.
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Not arguing. The only chainsaw guidance for training/assessing is safety features/guidebar length/ fit for purpose, that’s what we are working with. Joe has another metric he thinks we should be looking for, maybe he will inform us of what it is then we can keep our eyes peeled.
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One of the first questions in the Assessment Schedule requires the candidate to explain the reason for maintaining the saw to the manufacturers recommendations. So the manufacturers minimum recommended bar length on a 500i is 20”, so you put on a 15” bar and run an 8 pin sprocket, you have given it to your new novice to train with, they can’t control the saw and get injured, you really think that your insurance is going to agree with the HSE that the saw is ‘Fit for purpose’ under Puwer? No one has turned up for basic training with me in the last 10 years with anything bigger than a 60cc saw. It would seem that generally most people starting off with basic training aren’t dumbo’s who need an explanation why a 90cc with a 13” bar on it might not be appropriate for them, it must be pretty obvious to everyone, so it just never happens.
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Your Husqy with its 18” bar Is too long, your 500i with its 15” bar doesn’t meet the Puwer regs, that’s why. Your largely training complete novices on how to operate saws and fell trees, quite often they are crapping themselves and have very little saw control using a 50cc saw as it is, adding extra bar length to the Husqy isn’t going to help. There is nothing stopping them from using a larger cc saw, but allowing them a larger cc saw fitted with a guidebar not recommended by the manufacturer like a 500i on a 15”” , not meeting Puwer regs, is useful to them in what way? Its a bit like taking driving lessons/driving test, you generally do it in a Yaris as opposed to a supercharged Mitsubishi Evo
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None of these saws would be suitable for training basic felling. Set both saws up like you describe, one meets the Puwer regs, the other one doesn’t, which one do you think might be safer? All saws are dangerous in the wrong hands.
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If you measure from the front of the clutch cover to the tip of the bar they are usually pretty near, you lose about an inch with standard dogs. Most training providers use 40-50cc saws, MS261 or 550xp for example. Both saws are light and fast, running 15” bars, more than enough power and bar length for novices cutting small trees. Give them a bigger saw, a MS362 or 562xp on 3/8 pitch chain, and see how generally their control drops right off, give them a 500i, might as well just call the ambulance now.
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There are a lot of people who made complete fools out of themselves throughout the plandemic and it’s difficult for them to accept this even now. The damage has been done, why shouldn’t we look at the reasons why, what was gained/lost from the lockdown, and who benefited the most? At least the lockdown meant that no one died of flu or old age for two years, imagine if these figures where added to the Covid death numbers. 😂
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I’m making the point that 15” maximum is the requirement, so turning up with anything bigger and “crack on and say nowt” isn’t going to happen.
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15” guidebar is the requirement, you will get this information sent to you by the training provider before you start, why would you show up with anything different? The Stihl light type is 16”, I will allow adjustments for that as it doesn’t come in 15” and the narrow kerf makes it very easy to control for novices. You show up with an 18” or 20” and you won’t be cutting on my course or being assessed, my jobs on the line so I always check this along with ppe etc.
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Method for getting consistent lengths when hand cutting logs?
5thelement replied to Elliott.F's topic in Firewood forum
Bolt a piece of threaded bar through the round circular hole that you can punch out on the end of many guidebars ( or just drill one out) then adjust the length of the bar to the size you want, then lock it off. You can buy adjustable magnetic ones in Scandinavia. YouTube it, there are loads of variations, I’ve seen them attached to saw dog and side cover studs. 👍
