Vespasian

I look forward to shorter days myself.. favorite time of year..

OK, done enough ruminating on this for the day.. Watched a vid or two, even watched one you got your idea's from I dare say... Sam Harris... then watched one from someone arguing free will does exist, but turns out it was some bible basher gettin in his twopence worth.. Anyways, thinkin on the subject in my own time after watchin a few vids... Does it matter?.. does it matter if we do the things we do because of predeterminismn or through an act of free will?.. and the answer is NO. Crime and criminality usually get dragged up on debates about free will.. I couldn't help it gov!!!!.. it was the other me that made me do it.. thus giving thieving *unt's an excuse and mitigation... Well thats OK if your gonna lean on mitigation for your defense... Well, Mitigation ain't what it used to be.. originally mitigation was introduced to explain errant behavior, and help psychologists to understand criminal behavior... it was never intended to be used as a device to excuse criminal behavior.. Criminal behavior is what it is, its simple.. you break the law, the law breaks you.. No ifs or buts, no it wasn't my fault, just black and white you did it or you didn't.. if you did it, then you get shit on in court..... If we go down the road of two actors at play, then this vid might give you an idea of the confusion that might entail in courts of law.. a Sovereign citizen in court arguing the toss.. not about free will but does have a bearing on the debate... plus its pretty funny...

Bit of head scratchier this subject.. Seems to me the environment forces people down lanes of travel, but the individual can choose which road to turn off on.. or is it that a person thinks he freely took road A, but unbeknownst to him the environment incrementally forced him down that road?... I've have to ruminate on this an get back later.. I'll have an answer before the days out...

Is free will free?... On some levels the brain might work on auto pilot, but it also has a lot to do with environment.. IE, sure, your, brain might make choices pre determined for itself, but its the environment that shapes your choices... In that respect your free will is a slave to the environment.. If its raining out, you get a coat on.. you don't chose a coat if its sunny.. If a man kills his cheating wife, as much as environment pushed him in that direction, he still choose to kill his wife.. he had an option to not kill his wife.. He/his brain had a choice. the killers actions should not be judged on how the environment shaped his action, but on his crime... In the real world, it doesn't matter if your choices in life are predetermined or not, what counts is bringing your choices to account...

Might be an idea to teach children about the Spartans.. Helen of troy was said to be the most beautiful woman in the world.. Spartan woman were the most desirable in Greece... Because their woman were expected train as hard as men..keep themselves fit an healthy looking.. Mind you its not just women who like a chocolate bar is it, looking at a lot of fella's they're just as guilty of gluttony themselves... Might just be time to engage in a little fat shaming if your asking me.. I tried it on my ex the other month. I go round for a chinwag and gossip every now and then, and I thought it was a good idea to tell her about a friend of here's I'd seen goin on runs the last few weeks.. Mentioned how fit she was beginning to look.. Two minutes later I was turning the key in my Vito as she was thumping at the window tryin to put it through.. Women just can't take a hint to slim down..

No, just a week or two, maybe a bit more

I get the gap through the avatar as well, I thought it might be some randomware crap interfering with the the forum...

you might want to phone a few local tree firms up.. I expect the golden rule is you turn up on time every time if you agree to move some of their arb waste... don't listen to sarcasm from some on here, whats the saying?, ones mans rubbish is another mans gold..

Hows that wee lamb of yours Mull?.. and the mother?,hope your treatin em right

I doubt we'll ever see a referendum in Britain for a long time.. Reading between the lines it looks to me like both sides have decided to fight brexit out at the next election. in the coming weeks, the Tories are gonna have to explain to Europe what they mean by brexit... this is gonna open up the divisions in the Tory party as each side fights for its own version of brexit.. hard or soft.. If the hardliners win, they'll get shut of May shortly thereafter.. leaving clear water between them and Labour, who'll be fighting for a soft brexit... if the brextremists win in the Tory Party, they also have to take on board they'll still be in a minority in their own party.. meanwhile a couple of interesting polls have come to light, suggesting support for brexit is beginning to ebb somewhat.. appendage.. Micheal Gove on one his trips to the US.. wanted Trump to once again publicly commit to making a trade deal with Britain a priority.. He wouldn't do it..

Though it might be difficult to ponder on, its not difficult to work the root of the problem out.. The Persians, might be convoluted but it was those retards that changed early Islamic doctrine to suit their attitude to war. If only Muslims would educate themselves on early Islam, they may just soften their attitude to violence.. is it gonna happen?.. not in our lifetimes..

There is no thugs in my village spud, they all do as they're told... no one gets hurt that way!!!!!..

But if you wanted to be the leader of said village, and you knew new blood you'd brought in would vote in your favour, then you might start to think different.. corruption the root of all evil..

wastin your time Matelot, he's got you on ignore if memory serves... no shame in that I'm on there to apparently

blimey, I'll mark the date on my calendar..

heres a full episode.. fascinating seein how a typical house has changed over the years.. kitchinware an all that.. as to the episode, nothin to get worked up about, light hearted banter that some take too serious in this day an age...

Is it not over ?.. Parliament has just given notice to Theresa May that it will have something to say in regards when brexit happens.. so what do we have, 80 Tory hardliners and a handful of others from various other parties verses the rest of em.. If they don't like what Theresa May comes back with, (to much like a hard brexit) she'll be blocked.. what can the hardline brexiteers do now?.. They can unseat May in the next few months if they want, but they're still gonna be left with a majority against them.. so what would be the point?.. all they can do now is wait on the inevitable.. the dreams of a hard brexit falling into the dust.. Which leaves us with the only option available to May at present, the softest of brexits... shadowing the EU without any say on how Europe is run.. a vassal State as some have described it... Hows that gonna sound to most people?.. well they ain't gonna like it and it'll dawn on most sensible people that if we're paying for it, we might as well be in it.. Yep, they may as well pack it in now and save us from a four years of getting nothin done on account of their glorious misadventure.. numpties..

If you didn't notice, Clarksons point was he could go anywhere in Europe without to much trouble, IE business can do the same.. all those cars trucks and other sundries will go from open access to having to spend hrs filling in forms if we leave the EU... The only reason we're talking about trade is we have promised Europe we're gonna be stayin in Europe and paying our bills.. the border with Ireland sorted that one out...

Now why would I do that?... mindless fodder for the mindless millions.. much like the tabloids.. Give me the internet anyday of the week..

hahaha I like this fella, came across his channel earlier today...

No, you are.. using Clarkson to promote brexit when he voted to remain.. what a numpty!!!!!.. Anyways, a change of tack.. my spirits having been lifted after the Tory rebellion on Wednesday.. the brextemists have been poleaxed in Parliament.. their days are numbered... Its 80 lunatics against the rest of Parliament combined from now on... see ya later brexit, its over...

what an idiot........

The point I was tryin to make is............if you have money to gamble on assets, money you can afford to throw away.. then get into gold, not because its price is stable, it isn't.. but because its value will rise in hard times.... Thats good for obvious reasons, and if you have money in other stocks that fall, it will balance out any loss. hopefully!!!!.. Not that I take my own advice, I never gamble, I can't stand doin the lottery as its gambling to me.. My philosophy is, if you want money then work for it, if you want more money then work harder.. if you're gonna gamble, gamble on your work ethic to see you through... who respects a lottery winner?.. who respects someone who started cleaning toilets and now owns his own company?. My philosophy lesson for the day, invest in yourself... that'll be ten dollars Matelot... thanks

Very funny... As it is I never did buy a VCR or Betamax.. when they were new they were too expensive, when they came cheap I couldn't be bothered.. I can't think of anything more depressing than watchin somethin after its bin on't telly... life's to short for that shit... these days I just watch utube,, much more interesting than watching people prance around on the soaps pretending to be someone else.. as to knowing which platforms might win out, simple. its usually the one that comes out first.. much like bitcoin.. thats why its all the advantages over its rivals.. thats why your one pound bitcoin might turn into a million pound bitcoin... though its somethin of a long shot even at that..

Yep, thats why we have a state pension.. not many have that sort of loose change knockin about..