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  1. Tanat Valley Firewood
    Many thanks for your comment. The HP refers to High (out)Put. It is a 23kw stove and can highly recommend it.
  2. Tanat Valley Firewood
    Try your local saw mill, ask them about their slab wood. This may be the cheapest way of doing it. Also try your local tree surgeons, they may be able to help. To be honest, the days of free wood are pretty much over as everything has a value as the costs rise. Good luck.
  3. Tanat Valley Firewood
    We have a large isolated but insulated farmhouse in the Welsh Boarders. We heat it with a Stovax Stockton 14 HP stove feeding a thermal store, supported by solar panels for summer hot water. It produces 15kw in to the water and 7 into the room, it runs continuously from August and we dry our clothes, heat or water and the house. It was around £2000 including a thermostat, although I suspect that they have gone up since then. We have been delighted with the stove and have no complaints at all. It has been in for 5 years and this year we are replacing the baffle at around £80. Works well for us, takes logs up to 28 inch. I am a firewood merchant so we burn the crap that we would not sell to others and the best stuff that others would not want to pay for, so best of both worlds. Good Luck
  4. Tanat Valley Firewood
    We have a 400m2 isolated farmhouse in the Welsh boarders which we heat from a Stovax 14HP log burner. I could not find a firewood supplier who could tell me what they would bring, why it was firewood, where it came from, what the moisture content was, exactly when they would come and a defined cost per unit. So I set myself up as a firewood merchant and provide that information to my customers. Trees are not cheap, and by the time that you have transported it, processed it, seasoned it, delivered it, stacked it, and insured every person in that process, then firewood is not cheap, but it wont cost you the earth, like oil, coal and gas.
  5. Tanat Valley Firewood
    Please could you let me have your price on these nets please? Many thanks Daniel Patrick Tanat Valley Firewood
  6. Tanat Valley Firewood
    Hello Bustergasket. I sell kindling, log nets and barrow bags in the van. The payload of the van is 1400 kg, so fine for the kindling which is 4kg as I can get 125 in the van and another 125 in the trailer. The barrow bags are 70kg and I can get 10 on, so only half of the permitted weight. The log nets are 12Kg and I can get 100 on the van, so again within the limit. I bought a mini crane scale on eBay for £19 which will weigh up to 300kg. I have a small crane for the tractor which lifts the barrow bags and we can weigh them using this scale. I put the average weights on my invoices which shows a level of accuracy not usually found in log sales and gives me confidence when I am pulled over by VOSA for an inspection. If you know what you are selling you can ask for the right price, if you don't know what you are selling then you may be giving it away or fall foul of trading standards and VOSA. Good luck and stay safe and legal. Raise your game and others will follow.
  7. Tanat Valley Firewood
    I understand what the other commentators are saying, but I would also ask what the market will hold, that is ask the customer. I have a tractor and cone splitter and I would be happy to split locally for £25 including the travel cost. My tractor is fully depreciated and the cone splitter was £500 second hand and must have split 200T with it.
  8. Tanat Valley Firewood
    I recently sold 32 cube of unseasoned oak cut into 70cm for £2250. Prices will vary around the country.
  9. Tanat Valley Firewood
    Hi Nikk. We have a 300m2 farmhouse, heated entirely from logs. We use a Stovax Stockton 16HP. It is 23kw, 15 into the thermal store and 8 into the room. This is our central heating, supported by solar panels in the summer. I am a log merchant, burning our waste (that is not good enough to sell). To do this economically you will need a very large log store or a very cheap source of logs. We burn the equivalent of what I sell for £25 every day in the winter. It is a way of life and a green one at that, having a tractor and trailer and splitter will help. If you want to know more about our set up, give me a call on 01691 791 571. Good luck. Daniel PS There are a number of stoves that you can use in a smokeless zone, Clearview for example.
  10. Tanat Valley Firewood
    I liver in a Toyota van, sometimes I can get £350 in it so travelling a distance is worthwhile.
  11. Tanat Valley Firewood
    In rings about £200 a transit load, if you split it and season it then the transit load becomes closer to £400. Everyone will have a different idea as we don't have a standard unit of sale and we are all in different markets. Personally I sell in barrow bags as my defined unit of sale. Good luck
  12. Tanat Valley Firewood
    Sales are brisk, in July I sold more than in Feb. Hoping for a long cold winter.
  13. Tanat Valley Firewood
    I have been going almost three years and just about making a living. If you want to have a chat about my experience, then please feel free to give me a call on 01691 791 571. My name is Daniel Patrick and I trade as Tanat Valley Firewood. All the best with your venture. You wont make a lot of money, but you may become rich.
  14. Tanat Valley Firewood
    We still have cordwood in Wales, I bought 24T of hardwood this week at £56 plus VAT, they were also offering softwood at £42.
  15. Tanat Valley Firewood
    I paid £56 per tonne for oak and ash delivered in the cord this week, there is of course 20% on top of that. I work on 1.6 to 1.8 cube of split unseasoned logs to the tonne, around 2.35 cube of seasoned hardwood logs to the tonne. How does that sound?
  16. Tanat Valley Firewood
    Nets I buy are £0.14, I sell kindling from £1.50. The extra £0.56 for the box (assuming everything else is equal) would push the price beyond what is commercially possible. Of course there may be marketing advantages from a nicely printed box, but that again would add to your cost. I apply swing tags to mine, which not only creates a brand, but also has contact details on them as well as burning tips on the back. Good luck.
  17. Tanat Valley Firewood
    I sell Eco firelighters to my customers, who love them. I buy them from one of the high street bargain stores, they are £2 for 40. That's 5p per firelighter. The margin you will get depends on how affluent your customers are. This way you buy just as many as you need, without sitting on lots of stock.
  18. Tanat Valley Firewood
    As an after thought, I sell in barrow bags and use a wheelie bin with the bottom cut off as my method of filling.
  19. Tanat Valley Firewood
    Anyone got a link to baggywiz?
  20. Tanat Valley Firewood
    I took mine to a new place for sharpening last week, they commented that it was no long a circular saw, but somewhat egg shaped. It has never worked so well having had a sharpen and alignment. Worth taking it off the bench for and perhaps the best £12 I have spent recently!
  21. Tanat Valley Firewood
    Before setting up I talked to a number of other firewood traders and one guy said that he could not compete with farmers sons so he went to one of the Easter European countries and contracted directly with them. I buy my timber as waste and windfall from local farmers and other land owners. I process it and sell it around locally and whilst I am not making a living 12 months of the year, the model appears to be working. The idea of burning firewood that has come from a clear fell site, forced dried using huge amounts of energy and then trucked across Europe seems counter to what we are trying to do, that is provide a low carbon way to heat your home. The numbers may add up, but it cannot be squared as environmentally sound. Think global and act local, support your locality.
  22. Tanat Valley Firewood
    We hired a processor in this week for a day. It was £25 per hour with one operator. I supplied another operator on the processor and another on a splitter on the front of the splitter. The chap on the front processed more timber splitting rings than the two with the processor. Accepted that one was splitting and the other two were sawing and splitting, but it really depends on the timber that you are putting through it. Normally I buy seasoned logs from my supplier and get him to come with his processor when I have a yard full of unprocessed timber. You can buy in the timber split into logs when they are seasoned (as I do), this saves you all the work and sitting on quantities of money in the barn for a year. Or you can process it yourself, and your margins will be greater, but you have the money tied up in seasoning stock. We do both, especially while we are in the initial growth stage. Good luck.
  23. Tanat Valley Firewood
    Not sure that you would get an all terrain pallet truck in the back of a van, they are significantly wider than a pallet.
  24. Tanat Valley Firewood
    I deliver using a Toyota Hiace. With the narrow lanes around here I would struggle with anything bigger or a trailer. I use barrow bags which means that I can stow the logs exactly where the householder wants them. The only drawback with the van is that it is rear wheel drive, on the other hand the fuel cost is 12p per mile, so I use the Land Rover went road conditions are poor. The 4x4 Sprinter referenced would be fine for those few days of the year, but much more costly for the rest of the miles. Good luck.
  25. Tanat Valley Firewood
    Hope you can point us in the right direction! We have ordered a Balfor saw bench and we are looking to add a five metre conveyor. Problem is that Balfor don't seem to do a five metre and we have found a Delek 5M conveyor that seems to be a reasonable price, but we have not heard of them. Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of a Delek conveyor? What is the build quality like? Any other comments? Many thanks for any contribution. Thank you.

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