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She’s aged quite well,all things considered.

This whole thing needs to go back to the drawing board. YOU CANT JUST ‘BOLT ON’ IRATA TECHNIQUES TO ARB CLIMBING ... IT ISN’T THE SAME. There are too many factors to take into account. This clearly isn’t the answer. Sure let’s make climbing safer, no one disagrees with that. Let’s find an up date industry specific solution that really works.

Nice to see some objectivity and impartiality during Trumps impeachment proceedings.

Do you have a link?

Ballsy fell that, Don. You wouldn’t want that springing back at you. Precision work, nicely done.

Pretoria in S Africa recently.

There is no way I’m going to use an ASAP and fall arrest system as a back up line. I’ve got a load of work booked in the new year. Maybe my last year of climbing. Based on what Scotspine has interpreted... I’m leaning towards. 1. 45m Ddrt mainline with Zigzag 2. 5m long strop with Zillon (as 2nd line) 3. 1.5m short strop with VT/hitch climber. Treemotion Mainline on bridge. Long strop on lower ‘D’s Short strop/flip line on side ‘D’s Edit.... mainly because that is close to what I already use and would most suit the kind of work I do. I would use a longer 2nd line for large open canopies.

Except both main lines have to be able to take the climber to the ground from the final anchor point.

Apparently.... along with the folding buckets they make

I did wonder as I pressed send.....

Hey, please let me know if you find one as the same happened to mine ages ago. I have to stand with it between my legs to keep it open.

This is true in a wide open canopy, but....the whole thing becomes a complete nightmare in a denser canopy. Unreasonably impractical, which can be reflected in a risk assessment, my question would be (Paul if you’re reading) how defensible is it to reject 2 ropes in a dense canopy. My fear is that unless you are always tied into two anchors, you won’t be Insured and you will always be liable, should anything go wrong.

When I did my CS38 about 6 years ago it was the other way round. We trained with two main ropes attached at all times (lanyard in for changeovers) it was very cumbersome and our harness bridges were really congested. When it came to the assessment (access the tree, perform aerial rescue and pole rescue) the assessor wanted us to climb on one mainline and side strop only.

It seems to me that ‘2 ropes’ will only mask the underlying problems of inadequate experience and poor working practices, it’s very sad that the real issues are even less likely to get addressed now. I’m just an average climber and advancing in years now but I have always placed safety as being of the utmost importance. I am really not looking forward to using two separate systems, the majority of the work I do will be made much more difficult now and I am struggling to see any real safety benefits. Self rescue will be MUCH harder to perform, especially in the event of a big bleed. Imagine having to disengage or ‘cut’ yourself from one of the systems under tension while bleeding out... Added fatigue, added pressure to get the job done quicker. Etc.etc.. And one thing that no one seems to have considered..... both systems will still only be attached to ONE BRIDGE on a climbing harness which in turn will be subject to much greater stress and wear & tear due to the excessive congestion of the added connectors. Very disappointing.

No not on a main line. On a long lanyard. I use a 5m one with the zillion. Usually daisy chained up but there if needed as a secondary short climbing line.

One and the same... I have a 9-5 job and then a 5-9 job. Never a dull minute.... we have around 40 mature oaks along with some ash, silver birch and hawthorn mainly..over around nearly an acre, not much of an understory as it used to get strimmed and flailed being a semi domestic area. The older trees are around 200 years old. We’ve cut the ivy at the stems on most of them as it was really taking over. I know there are differing opinions on that but I wanted to preserve the trees as best as possible. Here’s a big wind blown one from last winter.

Excellent thread and great pictures VI.. Thanks for taking the time to put it together, really interesting. We’ve lost a few mature oaks at our place. This has inspired me to pull my finger out and do some replanting in the spring. Hoping to get a couple of packs from the Woodland trust. Cheers. [emoji106]

PM sent. I’m not going to shame him in public, he knows who he is...

Hi Paul, It’s interesting that the ‘new’ guidance allows for the use of single rope working for aerial rescue situations. Surely if two anchor points were reasonably practicable for all working situations then they would be for rescue situations as well? The concession for one rope to be used in rescue scenarios seems to me to be an admission in itself that ‘two rope working’ isn’t really practical at all in the majority of situations. Maybe the skill in navigating this new ‘guidance’ will not be in the tree but at the risk assessment stage.

Same here, palleted up two loads of big laburnum pieces for a well known member on here. Paid the transport myself in good faith and never heard from him again. Chased him up for it and got zip. Got past feeling angry about it, kinda feel sorry for people who live their lives like that.

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I’m only climbing a few times every month now, still enjoy it but at 54 I’m slowing down. Really painful arthritis/carpel tunnel in my right wrist and my left shoulder has ligament damage following a partial dislocation.

I think Mambas and Cobras will avoid human contact, but obviously will strike if they feel threatened, apparently the mamba strikes repeatedly (Gangsta!) The vipers are much slower and don’t get out of the way quick enough which is why they account for most of the biting incidents. Don’t fancy being around any kind.....

I’m going to work in South Africa, out in the sticks for couple of weeks, I really don’t mind if I don’t see ANY... I know there’s no shortage of them out there.