Okay sean, you know what i was on about with the permanent 4x4 thing, and yes you are tecnically correct, but the set up on switchable 2 or 4 wheel drive vehicles means that those that arent permanent 4x4 are limited in their set up, and BTW are also designed primarily for ON road use. As far as engaging the second (front) prop, on defenders, toyota landcruisers and possibly others this is permanently engaged, and a centre diff and hi-lo range are controlled by the small lever (although i suspect you know this:sneaky2:)
In response to you second hair splitting paragraph, you know perfectly well that when i say it has no ability to carry, i mean that for something the size and power of a hilux, its carrying capacity is woeful. Mine couldnt even legally carry a ton, and as for towing, you are in agreement anyway- they cannot tow very much.
I am sorry you think that i am slating toyotas for the sake of it. You couldnt be further from the truth. This is a forum where people can express their views. A question was asked, and I expressed my views, that are formed from experience not opinion by the way.
I still disagree that the hilux is the best all round. However i look at it, I faiul to agree with you. It isnt endowed with any more seting than any other 4x4s, and less than some. It doesnt have ability to tow as much as others, it cant carry as much as others, it wont last as long as others, it wont keep its value as long as others, and it isnt any more comfortable (IMO) than others, including a defender IMO (although i accept that many people find defenders very uncomfortable.)
I would have a toyota landcruiser based pick up over a defender any day, but i would never touch another Hilux again. I bent mine, it rusted like hell, had endless electrical problems, and the delaers/ customer service worse than atrocious.
You say no pick up can tow as much as a 4x4 with permanent drive to both axles.....what is a truck cab defender if not a pick up, or a high capacity pick up land rover.
Once again I repeat- i was expressing an opinion based on my experience (which is not limited to one vehicle btw) in response to a question.