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  1. Pete Mctree
    Training provides a start point in your skill base, that is all.
  2. Pete Mctree
    Thanks Paul, do you know if there will be a chance for a review of the new guidelines as they are again radically different to the current ICoP.
  3. Pete Mctree
    Nice - well composed vid.
  4. Pete Mctree
    So people only ever cut themselves cutting & holding then? Sorry, but I find your opinion myopic & unrealistic
  5. Pete Mctree
    Thanks for the input Jamie - nice to read you again ?
  6. Pete Mctree
    Our only chance is if the industry continues to reject the draft icop & force the AA to re-engage the HSE as they could not proceed with it in its current form. I predict that the push back from the industry will place them in a difficult position though, as if they do as the HSE want, against the current weight of opinion, then they will cease being the voice of arboriculture in the UK.
  7. Pete Mctree
    How do people really expect someone to become competent or even proficient in 5 days work at height training? As an industry we are not happy to spend money on training- it needs to happen either on site during work time & costing loss of production or through extra training at a direct hit to the wallet. We need to adjust and reassess our expectations as we all had to start somewhere and learn at someone's expense
  8. Pete Mctree
    I feel sorry for the trainers at the moment- there is no relevant ACoP only a directive from the HSE that they have to teach two rope working. I do question the expertise and experience of the member of the HSE that has enforced this. It may be relevant to other industries but by the decision alone it demonstrates an ignorance of the Arb world.
  9. Pete Mctree
    I think the discussion about effective aerial rescue and enhanced or training standards are what we should have had, as opposed to having to fight against this rediculus 2 rope fiasco. We have to look at ourselves as an industry & honestly admit our short comings.
  10. Pete Mctree
    We cannot condense the posts
  11. Pete Mctree
    I think in the immediate we need to concentrate on fighting this. Reply to the consultation on the ACoP, tell the AA that it is not workable or positive in the reduction of accidents. If as an industry we reject it then they would have to go back to the HSE with that fact. If it is re - written with 2 rope working, we should be able to review again & reject if necessary. This should happen until an acceptable document is presented. This however requires a unity in our actions, we ALL need to do this to stand a chance of success. when all fails, then we work out how to make it happen ☹️
  12. Pete Mctree
    Base for ascent. I ALWAYS switch to a canopy anchor for working.
  13. Pete Mctree
    You are missing the point completely- non of us are in favour of mandatory 2 working lines. you asked if a short rope, long rope & lanyard fulfilled the criteria in the draft ICOP and supporting documents from the AA. It doesn’t, as it clearly states that both ropes have to be long enough to reach the ground. Simples !
  14. Pete Mctree
    There are some other changes I have found that could have implications - an example is; 2.11.6.10 d rope splicing - this effectively ends the self or non factory splicing of ropes. Not a positive move in my books it is going to take a while to work through this properly
  15. Pete Mctree
    If people have real objections to working on two ropes then they need to respond to the AA consultation document- they have given us the opertunity to object & we ALL need to do it.
  16. Pete Mctree
    I agree, I meant that it was not very applicable for our unique industry. I sometimes struggle to write with the clarity I desire
  17. Pete Mctree
    The draft ICOP will be out for peer review soon I think. Then we can have our say on it & any issues can be highlighted ?
  18. Pete Mctree
    We are just going to mention all valid points like this when the ICOP comes up for review & see what they suggest. We all know that it is not the best conceived piece of legislation
  19. Pete Mctree
    I think we are all running ahead here a little. Although implemented in theory, the ICOP has not been finalised and put out to consultation yet, never mind published. I think there will be some scope to comment upon it, albeit in a composed and careful manor and express our thoughts on the two rope scenario. EDIT - the point below has already been covered by the HSE & AA. 2 ropes is default unless risk assessed etc As a point of interest, I looked at the regulations with regards to work positioning and fail to see where it says two ropes are compulsory. It says where two lines are not "reasonably practical" a single anchor can be utilised.
  20. Pete Mctree
    That would be an easy problem to solve - quit prescribing cheap over the counter drugs!
  21. Pete Mctree
    Let's be honest, the NHS is being run down, dismantled & sold off, like the railways etc were. I looked on the gov.uk tender site the other week and there were approximately 30 million pounds of NHS contracts up for bids including those directly relating to patient treatment. Soon it will be so poorly underfunded that it will barely function and people will start getting private medical insurance if they can afford it. It will reach a point when the government will "sadly" say that they are going to have to privatise it as it is so underperforming that it is no longer viable. People will accept it as the alternative will look so much better. Then we will find out how expensive medicine can be! (sorry for the rant, but I can see it happening already)
  22. Pete Mctree
    I see many benefits of the asap as a way of providing a backup, but I also have two worries about it's introduction.Firstly is the wearing of full body class 3 harnesses as they should be attached to dorsal or sternal points (I think) and the second is the increased complexity of rescue and self rescue with a cut primary line. We need to have a close look at the rescue issue, because if staff are not competent & versed in it's use, it could potentially create a significant problem.
  23. Pete Mctree
    Sadly there are people so poor that this would be an obstacle to them getting appropriate treatment
  24. Pete Mctree
    We have been sold down the river a while ago I think Craig. I really do not believe that the AA are acting in our best interest by showing any support for this - they either cannot truly understand this or perhaps do not care as they are writing the iCOP! If they had the health of the industry in mind they would refuse to accept & endorse this farcical legislation
  25. Pete Mctree
    Irrespective of what you think, even in Arb you are supposed to do refresher training every 5 years ( one for ground units & one areial). Many ignore it, but it is a requirement

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