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[GarethM]

Why does it sound like they're slowly turning our intelligence services into a Johnny English film ?.

[coppice cutter]

2 hours ago, scotspine1 said:

Britain is fast becoming one of the most pathetic countries on the planet. 
 

What could possibly go wrong. If these people have no sense of belonging to England, Scotland, Wales or N.I. then what are they invested in defending? When your defence includes what are essentially foreign mercenaries you will always lose the long war because these people always sell out far easier to the enemy than native born people who’s entire heritage is rooted in the homeland. 
 

The UK is not a serious country anymore. 
 

Spies no longer need to prove parents' nationalities, say secret services in diversity drive

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'The changes will ensure MI5, MI6 and GCHQ secure best talent and right mix of...

 

I don't think it's just a UK issue to be honest.

 

The capitalists want a homogenous global society so they can take whatever they want from wherever they want to take it, and sell whatever they want to wherever they want to sell it.

 

Think that's ridiculous, well increasingly it isn't.

 

Anywhere there's precious metals or any resource of any value, they're there already. Destroying, pillaging, exploiting, lining the pockets of either a few sadistic 'politicians', or warlords, to keep the natives subdued and working to serve them.

 

National identity or any sense of loyalty to your home nation is the greatest threat there is to their ambitions, therefore they are gradually eroding it away any way they can, aided and abetted ironically by the representatives who these same people vote for when given the chance.

 

Or was that a dream/nightmare I had last night?

 

Getting old is a bugger!

Edited November 3, 2022 by coppice cutter

[GarethM]

Sadly that's pretty much a description of most of the young, grown up in the EU and have zero sense of country or the history that brings.

 

That's not a banging the drum nationalism.

As you must seperate the layers, but other than relocation for say work, I would never leave up sticks and leave.

 

Ok, I am a farmer so indebted servitude aside. Maybe that's different for those living in towns and cities, but my forebears fought for this country and I wouldn't want to shame that away.

[Stere]

 

 

Don't you dream of trying farming somewhere else big ranch in the US maybe etc?

 

 

 

 

[Johnsond]

Bank of England expects UK to fall into longest ever recession

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The Bank of England warns UK faces a "challenging" two-year slump - the longest since records...

Well was the last couple of years worth it I wonder ? Or was it the straw that broke the camels back ?, I genuinely think we are after successive poor governments who have failed the population of this country beyond sorting things out. 

Edited November 3, 2022 by Johnsond

[GarethM]

Problem is the young know very little about the country they live in.

 

I know you're stance on Brexit, but at the same time you moved legally and aren't really entitled to much from the Swedish government tho.

[GarethM]

Without sounding old fashioned I would feel like I was shaming my history as I am proud to know enough about history in general to respect how we have got where we are.

 

It's the rough with the smooth argument, if I was from a war torn country I would want to stay and make it better and not flee.

 

 

[Mick Dempsey]

5 minutes ago, GarethM said:

 

It's the rough with the smooth argument, if I was from a war torn country I would want to stay and make it better and not flee.

 

 

Easy to say.

[GarethM]

Well I think we can safely say we will never find out on that.

 

But wouldn't you want to protect and fight not just for your country but you're family, village etc ?.

Edited November 3, 2022 by GarethM

[Retired Climber]

17 minutes ago, GarethM said:

 

 

It's the rough with the smooth argument, if I was from a war torn country I would want to stay and make it better and not flee.

 

 

Fair play to you; you are a better man than me. First sign of trouble and I'm on the first plane, boat, or whatever out of here. I may or may not be screaming like a girl whilst making the arrangements.