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1 minute ago, trigger_andy said:

I’ve asked what can we do. Voting for lunatics is not the answer. We see that in Scotland.

And I've answered you, but you being you won't have it. When one party has all the power they can do what they want and it's happening right in front of our eyes right now.

 

Not got a bed to get to?

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7 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

And I've answered you, but you being you won't have it. When one party has all the power they can do what they want and it's happening right in front of our eyes right now.

 

Not got a bed to get to?

You’ve given a non-viable answer in my opinion. What we need is accountability. If we can’t have that then trying to replace the two main parties with smaller ones with lunatic axes to grind is only going to compound the problems we already have. 
 

As I say, Scotland and the SNP are a prime example. 
 

That’s me starting my day Eggs. 😁 Make Hay when the sunshines and all that. Gotta keep the SNP voters in the lifestyle they’re accustomed. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, trigger_andy said:

You’ve given a non-viable answer in my opinion. What we need is accountability. If we can’t have that then trying to replace the two main parties with smaller ones with lunatic axes to grind is only going to compound the problems we already have. 
 

As I say, Scotland and the SNP are a prime example. 
 

That’s me starting my day Eggs. 😁 Make Hay when the sunshines and all that. Gotta keep the SNP voters in the lifestyle they’re accustomed. 

 

 

It is viable, you just don't like because, as I said earlier, you're dyed in the wool. It would almost be funny if you paid your income tax in Scotland.

 

Have a good day of it.

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7 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

It is viable, you just don't like because, as I said earlier, you're dyed in the wool. It would almost be funny if you paid your income tax in Scotland.

 

Have a good day of it.

I’m not dyed in the wool. I’m exasperated that’s we’re in a race to the bottom and that the Tories have free reign because the opposition is so weak. 
 

I am actually having to pay tax to Scotland these days unfortunately. Due to the SNPs policies off offering everything for nothing to maintain power we pay 1% more up here than England. Couple that with the disgusting policy of removing the tax free allowance when you go over a certain threshold means that I have a a higher liability in Scotland than I would in Norway. 
Such is life.

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3 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

I’m not dyed in the wool. I’m exasperated that’s we’re in a race to the bottom and that the Tories have free reign because the opposition is so weak. 
 

I am actually having to pay tax to Scotland these days unfortunately. Due to the SNPs policies off offering everything for nothing to maintain power we pay 1% more up here than England. Couple that with the disgusting policy of removing the tax free allowance when you go over a certain threshold means that I have a a higher liability in Scotland than I would in Norway. 
Such is life.

Hang on trig, we're in a race to the bottom, but we are flying due to Brexit? 

 

Make your mind up where you are.

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7 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Hang on trig, we're in a race to the bottom, but we are flying due to Brexit? 

 

Make your mind up where you are.

We’ve been in a race to the bottom in British Politics since at least Blair’s time in power. To clarify, there is less and less accountability, they are more and more brazen in their sleaze and willingness to break the rules, their pledged and their own supposed ethics then just saunter off into the sunset on their buddies gravy-train. The Tories, the Lib Dems and Labour are all at it. Just like most things the Tories are simply better at it. 
 

This is has nothing to do with Brexit, this is internal British Politics that has existed long before the remotest possibility of Brexit was on the cards. There has been far more Brexit wins than there has been losses but failings in British accountability and Brexit are two separate issues. 
 

Perhaps we followed the EU’s playbook of unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats neck deep in corruption and cronyism a little too closely?

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2 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

We’ve been in a race to the bottom in British Politics since at least Blair’s time in power. To clarify, there is less and less accountability, they are more and more brazen in their sleaze and willingness to break the rules, their pledged and their own supposed ethics then just saunter off into the sunset on their buddies gravy-train. The Tories, the Lib Dems and Labour are all at it. Just like most things the Tories are simply better at it. 
 

This is has nothing to do with Brexit, this is internal British Politics that has existed long before the remotest possibility of Brexit was on the cards. There has been far more Brexit wins than there has been losses but failings in British accountability and Brexit are two separate issues. 
 

Perhaps we followed the EU’s playbook of unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats neck deep in corruption and cronyism a little too closely?

On the whole, yes. But you keep voting for it. I won't vote for Starmer because he's rubbish, yet you will keep voting Johnson when you know he is rubbish.

 

We need a change, if folk don't want change it's down to them I guess.

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Just now, eggsarascal said:

On the whole, yes. But you keep voting for it. I won't vote for Starmer because he's rubbish, yet you will keep voting Johnson when you know he is rubbish.

 

We need a change, if folk don't want change it's down to them I guess.

You assume I keep voting for it. ;) 
 

We need a fundamental step-change. What we don’t need it some idiots with a single agenda being handed the keys to number 10. As bad as things are that would be monumentally worse.
 

You not voting for Starmer and me supposedly voting Tory just results in the Tories getting the massive win they got at the last election. You’re as much a part of the problem as you believe I am.  

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2 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

You assume I keep voting for it. ;) 
 

We need a fundamental step-change. What we don’t need it some idiots with a single agenda being handed the keys to number 10. As bad as things are that would be monumentally worse.
 

You not voting for Starmer and me supposedly voting Tory just results in the Tories getting the massive win they got at the last election. You’re as much a part of the problem as you believe I am.  

Possibly not, I lived in a Tory stronghold when I last voted, the only way to try to get change was by voting for the smaller parties. A wasted vote but so would have been voting for Labour.

 

I'm back in the 'Red Wall' now, the people I've spoke to have realised the error of their ways now.

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Possibly not, I lived in a Tory stronghold when I last voted, the only way to try to get change was by voting for the smaller parties. A wasted vote but so would have been voting for Labour.
 
I'm back in the 'Red Wall' now, the people I've spoke to have realised the error of their ways now.



And I’m up here in lunatic Scotland where no matter how you vote we end up with the SNP.

The SNP propped up by the Greens. The Tail now wagging the Dog forcing the SNP to pretend to want to do away with our biggest asset, Oil. A massive new project has just been abandoned due to the Greens demands and Sturgeon’s weakness at a loss of around 2000 potential jobs.

Coalitions you say? Yeh, as I said. No thanks.
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