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[Mark J]

21 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

 

Yup, it's a shame that Starmer doesn't seem to have the capacity to take us all for mugs. 
I think he's a lousy leader of the 'opposition' though.

BuT LaBOUr... 

Some people refuse to see that Labour have nothing to do with any of this. To be fair, I'd be embarrassed if I'd been mugged off by someone called Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.

Edited December 10, 2021 by Mark J

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

30 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Yup, it's a shame that Starmer doesn't seem to have the capacity to take us all for mugs. 
I think he's a lousy leader of the 'opposition' though.

BuT LaBOUr... 

Some people refuse to see that Labour have nothing to do with any of this. To be fair, I'd be embarrassed if I'd been mugged off by someone called Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.

I didn’t vote ‘for’ him Mark. I had to hold my nose and vote for the local Tory MP purely on the basis that I, incorrectly, perceived the Corbyn / Momentum movement as a credible threat. 
 

It’s interesting that you think Labour had nothing to do with “it.”

 

That may well be true but I can’t help but think the absence of a solid criticism of this behaviour by the opposition may be because of a fragility of moral stance.  What happens if they come out all guns blazing only to be later exposed as having done similar?  That’d be a tadge “awkward” no?

[Woodworks]

2 hours ago, Stere said:

Goves unelectable though surely?

 

So hope its him 🙂

 

But think Boris will stay.....

 

 

I thought Boris was unelectable so dont expect any sense these days. Rather agree that somehow BJ will hang on much to the  detriment of our country. I mean he has been shown to be lier from the off and its not stopped him yet so why now? God I hope I am wrong though as none of them could be as bad as this shit-show 

[Mark J]

23 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

I didn’t vote ‘for’ him Mark. I had to hold my nose and vote for the local Tory MP purely on the basis that I, incorrectly, perceived the Corbyn / Momentum movement as a credible threat. 
 

It’s interesting that you think Labour had nothing to do with “it.”

 

That may well be true but I can’t help but think the absence of a solid criticism of this behaviour by the opposition may be because of a fragility of moral stance.  What happens if they come out all guns blazing only to be later exposed as having done similar?  That’d be a tadge “awkward” no?

Labour lost my vote when Corbyn went. If Andy Burnham or Jamie Driscoll were to go for it then I would back them. I used to vote for the green party and will probably continue to do so. 

You essentially endorsed him as leader of the conservatives by voting for one of his MPs.

[eggsarascal]

4 hours ago, trigger_andy said:

The problem with that is there is just no accountability. Just the merry-go-round of politicians lining up to be the next fall guy then when they do take the fall they end up in the private sector gravy train. 

 

It matters not if its Labour or the Tories, the whole system is corrupt to the core. 

Yep, that's the system we've got unfortunately. 

[eggsarascal]

3 hours ago, Mark J said:

Photo evidence exists of No 10 Christmas parties, claims Dominic Cummings

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‘There’s lots of pictures,’ says former advisor – who predicts PM will be replaced next summer

Who do you reckon they'll pick next? I reckon it's a coin toss between Jeremy Hunt and Gove. Gove's canny tight with Murdoch so it'll be interesting to see how things pan out. 

Sunak, possibly Truss.

[trigger_andy]

12 hours ago, Stere said:

Goves unelectable though surely?

 

So hope its him 🙂

 

But think Boris will stay.....

 

 

More unelectable than Kneel Stammer? Both would be disastrous but people dont forget that Kneel was against Brexit and he's a white apologist weasel. The demographics of who votes in the UK are fortunately still white and voted for Brexit. Although that will of course change in the years to come. 

[Ben Pinnick]

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That may well be true but I can’t help but think the absence of a solid criticism of this behaviour by the opposition may be because of a fragility of moral stance.

I think it could be because Starmer has more brains than the entire other side of the house. He knows that BJ will destroy the conservative party so why bother risking it? He only needs to come out fighting as the end game for an election draws near. Boris is his own worst enemy (and the Tory's too) so why put expose yourself to the unknown shenanigans of your party by taking strong stances? With Boris' majority & behaviour towards his own MPs if they don't toe the line, he can't win a vote, so it's all meaningless posturing otherwise. And he doesn't strike me as the sort of self-aggrandising, meaningless posturing type. 

[trigger_andy]

1 minute ago, Ben Pinnick said:

I think it could be because Starmer has more brains than the entire other side of the house. He knows that BJ will destroy the conservative party so why bother risking it? He only needs to come out fighting as the end game for an election draws near. Boris is his own worst enemy (and the Tory's too) so why put expose yourself to the unknown shenanigans of your party by taking strong stances? With Boris' majority & behaviour towards his own MPs if they don't toe the line, he can't win a vote, so it's all meaningless posturing otherwise. And he doesn't strike me as the sort of self-aggrandising, meaningless posturing type. 

Looks like someone other than Starmer likes getting on his knees. 🤣

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, Ben Pinnick said:

I think it could be because Starmer has more brains than the entire other side of the house. He knows that BJ will destroy the conservative party so why bother risking it? He only needs to come out fighting as the end game for an election draws near. Boris is his own worst enemy (and the Tory's too) so why put expose yourself to the unknown shenanigans of your party by taking strong stances? With Boris' majority & behaviour towards his own MPs if they don't toe the line, he can't win a vote, so it's all meaningless posturing otherwise. And he doesn't strike me as the sort of self-aggrandising, meaningless posturing type. 

OK, don’t agree, but fair enough if that’s how you see it.