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[kevinjohnsonmbe]

323 votes just push Labour across the line in what should have been a banker. 
 

Just, hardly a compelling victory and a significant vote share collapse for Labour.
 

47% turn out is poor - but reflects the nationwide apathy (hostility) towards politics. 

 

Galloway to mount a legal challenge against result. 

[Johnsond]

Queen Victoria statue toppled in Canada

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Queen Victoria statue toppled in Canada

Shame Canadian powers that be and in particular Trudeau weren’t as zealous with these guys as they were with those they deemed broke the covid regs. 

Edited July 2, 2021 by Johnsond

[eggsarascal]

8 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

323 votes just push Labour across the line in what should have been a banker. 
 

Just, hardly a compelling victory and a significant vote share collapse for Labour.
 

47% turn out is poor - but reflects the nationwide apathy (hostility) towards politics. 

 

Galloway to mount a legal challenge against result. 

Hold ya foot up, your 'questions' in your post above weren't questions, they were what you thought would happen, it didn't. 

 

Now a win isn't good enough, let me remind you, any win is a good win.

 

Do you honestly think Galloway mounting legal action will come to anything?

[Mick Dempsey]

A win is a win, a loss would have been a catastrophe.

 

Galloway is a joke. A reasonably funny one I’ll admit.

[Mark J]

7 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Queen Victoria statue toppled in Canada

APPLE.NEWS

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Queen Victoria statue toppled in Canada

Shame Canadian powers that be and in particular Trudeau weren’t as zealous with these guys as they were with those they deemed broke the covid regs. 

Why's that then? It's just a chunk of metal. It's not like they're potentially jeopardising other peoples lives. 
What's the point of trying to find a correlation between two different events?
 

Edited July 2, 2021 by Mark J

[skyhuck]

On 19/06/2021 at 20:52, sime42 said:

Here's some food for thought;-

" Like “politically correct” before it, the word “woke” has come to connote the opposite of what it means. Technically, going by the Merriam-Webster dictionary’s definition, woke means “aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)”, but today we are more likely to see it being used as a stick with which to beat people who aspire to such values, often wielded by those who don’t recognise how un-woke they are, or are proud of the fact."

I was intrigued by this term WOKE that people keep using so I looked it up.

It's sarcasm.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, eggsarascal said:

Hold ya foot up, your 'questions' in your post above weren't questions, they were what you thought would happen, it didn't. 

 

Now a win isn't good enough, let me remind you, any win is a good win.

 

Do you honestly think Galloway mounting legal action will come to anything?

I did think Galloway would swing it and I'd have been pleased if he did.  Whilst I don't subscribe to his politics, I do greatly admire his tenacity, intellect and razor wit.  He's a political genius and of far higher moral calibre than the majority of current MPs.

 

Maybe in football a win is a win.  It ain't quite the same in politics though Egger.  Can the Labour vote share deficit be claimed as a victory?  Historically, opposition fare much better than sitting government in mid term elections.  Can't be said here and it also can't be said that this was anything like a traditional swing seat - it has been a Labour strong hold and now it is an "only just" in a mid term by election where Labour should have been a banker.  So yes, it's a seat but not sure Mrs Bedwetter should make herself too comfortable.

 

Only a complete fool would underestimate Galloway - ask the US Senate sub committee investigating the UN oil for food programme.

[eggsarascal]

2 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

I did think Galloway would swing it and I'd have been pleased if he did.  Whilst I don't subscribe to his politics, I do greatly admire his tenacity, intellect and razor wit.  He's a political genius and of far higher moral calibre than the majority of current MPs.

 

Maybe in football a win is a win.  It ain't quite the same in politics though Egger.  Can the Labour vote share deficit be claimed as a victory?  Historically, opposition fare much better than sitting government in mid term elections.  Can't be said here and it also can't be said that this was anything like a traditional swing seat - it has been a Labour strong hold and now it is an "only just" in a mid term by election where Labour should have been a banker.  So yes, it's a seat but not sure Mrs Bedwetter should make herself too comfortable.

 

Only a complete fool would underestimate Galloway - ask the US Senate sub committee investigating the UN oil for food programme.

Yes, I agree with this, but you make it sound like you want Labour to fail completely, we need opposition that can bite back, don't you agree?

 

Labour really do need to get their finger out, yam saying you are in the middle doesn't help with your incorrect predictions.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, eggsarascal said:

Yes, I agree with this, but you make it sound like you want Labour to fail completely, we need opposition that can bite back, don't you agree?

 

Labour really do need to get their finger out, yam saying you are in the middle doesn't help with your incorrect predictions.

Labour has never been as successful as it was under Blair's leadership but most Labour 'types' hate Blair.

 

What Labour really wanted was a Corbynesque doctrine.  It's just that the nation didn't so for as long as the likes of Macdonald, Aboot, Rayner and the rest are in the party they will never be credible.

 

Labour needs to fix itself before it can be taken seriously.

[eggsarascal]

5 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Labour has never been as successful as it was under Blair's leadership but most Labour 'types' hate Blair.

 

What Labour really wanted was a Corbynesque doctrine.  It's just that the nation didn't so for as long as the likes of Macdonald, Aboot, Rayner and the rest are in the party they will never be credible.

 

Labour needs to fix itself before it can be taken seriously.

And that's going to happen with the likes of you predicting what will go on in Batley and Spen, I thought you floated about?, perhaps you do but don't really want change?