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[skyhuck]

16 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

I think Dave is quite a smart guy, his engendering skills and certainly his job would indicate this. 

 

Yes, indefinite lock-down would certainly limit the infection growth rate. But at what cost? Questioning and weighing up alternatives is certainly not in the realms of 'flat earther' territory. You mention a hypothesis of not having lock down resulting in cancelations in treatments and unpleasant deaths yet thats exactly what we're seeing with perma-lockdown. Doctors surgeries are point blank refusing to see patients resulting in countless cancer screenings not taking place and many people needlessly dying from it.  We have numerous cases of young people killing themselves as they're struggling with lockdown. All to save people who's lives are almost over. Is anyone asking them if they wish the country to be plunged into this financial chaos and the ruining of so many young peoples lives? 

 

What about the common Flu? Since we cant eradicate it and the vaccines available are not stopping the thousands upon thousands of deaths we see in the UK due to the Flu are we to maintain lock-down indefinitely? Or do these deaths not count? Are we now back to the concern of 'overwhelming the NHS'? If so then when the flu season is over would you suggest we come out of lock-down and just shrug our shoulders at the Covid deaths we'll inevitably have as long as the hospitals are not full to busting? 

 

Clearly the vaccine is not the be all and end all. The Flu vaccine still results in multiple thousands of deaths here in the UK.  We can only assume it will be the same with Covid. So will we give up on lock-down or do these excess and preventable deaths no longer matter? Preventable as in indefinitely maintaining lock-down. Because every life matters and we should continue to do everything within our powers to prevent needless excess deaths. 

 

Im curious to see what a 'tier 5' will bring. I'll watch with interest to see if affects the work of many here and if it does they maintain their same stance. 

 

 

Questioning this is nothing to do with stupidity. But if it is then count me in on avoiding cruises in the future, I dont wanna fall off the edge.  

It must be marvellous to think oneself smarter than the leaders of every country on the planet, I genuinely envy you 🙂

[Johnsond]

2 hours ago, sime42 said:

6 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Just reread my post several times can you let me know where I said it was boring me or I mentioned your wife and statistics in the same sentence???. I don’t think I’m ****************ing anyone as you so eloquently put it but what I don’t do is throw out abuse from behind the safety of a keyboard. 

Really????!!

Yep really 

Go through any of my posts and see if I’ve asked anyone who the **************** they think they are based on something they didn’t say. 

Edited January 3, 2021 by Johnsond

[trigger_andy]

Just now, skyhuck said:

It must be marvellous to think oneself smarter than the leaders of every country on the planet, I genuinely envy you 🙂

When have I stated that?

 

If Im not wrong most of the UK and the members of this forum seem to think the UK  government has consistently handled the pandemic badly. Not the traits of the smartest the UK has to offer surely?

 

And not every country is handling the pandemic in unison. There is vast differences from country to country so questioning how we in the UK handle it, after numerous failures is not the musing of an idiot. Blind compliance and unquestioning obedience might be. 

 

 

[skyhuck]

11 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Yep really 

Go through any of my posts and see if I’ve asked anyone who the **************** they think they are based on something they didn’t say. 

You clown..........He asked who YOU f'**ing think YOU are. 

[Johnsond]

58 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

Are you really that stupid?

 

I had you down as a pretty smart guy.

 

With or without lockdowns other health issues were always going to be a casualty. Had there been no lockdowns the NHS would have been overwhelmed, leading to the cancellation of other treatments, plus many more, probably more unpleasant deaths.

 

Each time restrictions are lifted, infection rates grow, if you don't believe this, I can only hope you have a long and happy life on the flat earth we all enjoy.

This is the problem on here as soon as someone disagrees the comments like yours start. Am I really that stupid 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ You obviously feel the whole lockdown process is the way forward. You don’t know me you dont know what ive done throughout this farce, so in your book anyone whom disagrees with your opinions ref covid is stupid. Cropper has had ample invitations to show me where I said the things that offended him so badly, he will struggle massively because as he knows I didn’t say it, I’m not the only one on here whom totally disagrees with the blanket lockdown process. What you had me down as is neither here nor there to me. 

[Johnsond]

4 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

You clown..........He asked who YOU f'**ing think YOU are. 

Lol stop count to ten and have a little think about that post what you’ve just written I think you will be the one wearing the red nose bud, there’s a few on here today puffing the chests out and punching the keys I see 

Edited January 3, 2021 by Johnsond

[Johnsond]

41 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

You clown..........He asked who YOU f'**ing think YOU are. 

You worked it out yet ?? 😆you have haven’t you 🤡🤡
 

Edited January 3, 2021 by Johnsond

[sime42]

Lol stop count to ten and have a little think about that post what you’ve just written I think you will be the one wearing the red nose bud, there’s a few on here today puffing the chests out and punching the keys I see 

Indeed. Always seems to be the same few individuals doesn't it?

[David Cropper]

6 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

This is the problem on here as soon as someone disagrees the comments like yours start. Am I really that stupid 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ You obviously feel the whole lockdown process is the way forward. You don’t know me you dont know what ive done throughout this farce, so in your book anyone whom disagrees with your opinions ref covid is stupid. Cropper has had ample invitations to show me where I said the things that offended him so badly, he will struggle massively because as he knows I didn’t say it, I’m not the only one on here whom totally disagrees with the blanket lockdown process. What you had me down as is neither here nor there to me. 

Cropper, as you insist on calling me, doesn't live on his keyboard as you seem to do. He has a life. And you referred to me as a keyboard warrior! That is my last word on this.

[Johnsond]

7 minutes ago, sime42 said:

13 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Lol stop count to ten and have a little think about that post what you’ve just written I think you will be the one wearing the red nose bud, there’s a few on here today puffing the chests out and punching the keys I see 

Indeed. Always seems to be the same few individuals doesn't it?

Nope 

Not at all 

Zero insults thrown around by myself here, I’ve a different opinion to yours on many things. That’s about it. 

Edited January 3, 2021 by Johnsond