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[trigger_andy]

Just now, Mark J said:

You have the credibility of a saucepan.

 

You're confusing our roles here I think. Are you drunk again? 

[Mark J]

Just now, trigger_andy said:

 

You're confusing our roles here I think. Are you drunk again? 

Are you trying to divert attention from your unenviable position?

[trigger_andy]

Are you trying to divert attention from your unenviable position?

And according to you that is?

[Stere]

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Not so unhappy with the direction now but why we ignored it for so long was bewildering. 

 

Maybe Dominic Cummings being at the SAGE meetings had something to do with  herd immunity, it sounds like something he would come up with?

 

Even the torygraph is reporting on it:

 

Dominic Cummings tried to influence lockdown advice, Sage members suggest

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The Prime Minister's chief adviser attended several meetings of the scientific group

 

Hes like some kind of second rate Bond villian into eugenics etc.

 

Advocating Eugenics in the UK Department of Education:

 

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[Stere]

Yanks  going batshit crazy overlockdown ?

 

Stormed the state house in michigan:

 

Think they have being playing to mch COD on the xbox?

 

 

[Khriss]

11 hours ago, Mark J said:

You have the credibility of a saucepan.

No..... A saucepan is a functional item .  K

 

( judging by these posts this morn - think a few guys were on the sauce'  last night........... ?) 

[monkeybusiness]

This place is obviously full of experts so can you collectively answer me this please? - 

Until either a vaccine becomes available or we achieve herd immunity (and I’m talking nationally as well as globally here) how does the individual state’s approach make any difference to the total death rate once this virus has inevitably reached all corners of the earth?
Providing the relevant health-care services aren’t overwhelmed (as they were in Italy) then the actual death rates are surely inevitable, and will vary from country to country as a result of other factors (how deaths are reported is a massive one - dying ‘with’ and ‘because’ of Covid are very different scenarios), overall health and age of the population, effectiveness of the healthcare system (are many people still alive that perhaps wouldn’t be in other countries with lesser healthcare provision etc?). 
All of the measures being implemented everywhere are simply to slow the spread to manageable levels - we will surely all be exposed to this at some point and whether we survive or not doesn’t appear to be something that we can change at present.

[Khriss]

Am Not a Doctor,  however C19 like Influenza is here to stay and cannot be 100% eradicated. Just like Influenza. It will mutate to a different t strain like every other virus. It is sometimes lethal, like Influenza. We will get resistant to it, but deaths will still occur.    Coronavirus has been around for decades just like Influenza............. (  wont open that can of worms) 

 

How   .GOV   Responds to this will be the kicker, economically and socially. 

[Woodworks]

1 hour ago, monkeybusiness said:

how does the individual state’s approach make any difference to the total death rate once this virus has inevitably reached all corners of the earth?
 

Take it to the extreme and look at New Zealand who have 6 new cases and one new death. You can see they can open up and track and trace any new cases so totally containing the virus until a vaccine does become available. Most countries are tying to lower the cases to the point track and trace can keep up with a future spread. Some may even eliminate it within their boarders. 

 

Sure we are only buying time but it makes more sense than just leaving many to die IMO

 

Say we go down the "lets all get it route" and we lose as many as the WHO said is the death rate of 3.4%. That leaves us with 2,244,000 dead and then someone comes up with a vaccine! No government can handle that much blood on it hands thankfully

[monkeybusiness]

14 minutes ago, Woodworks said:

Take it to the extreme and look at New Zealand who have 6 new cases and one new death. You can see they can open up and track and trace any new cases so totally containing the virus until a vaccine does become available. Most countries are tying to lower the cases to the point track and trace can keep up with a future spread. Some may even eliminate it within their boarders. 

 

Sure we are only buying time but it makes more sense than just leaving many to die IMO

 

Say we go down the "lets all get it route" and we lose as many as the WHO said is the death rate of 3.4%. That leaves us with 2,244,000 dead and then someone comes up with a vaccine! No government can handle that much blood on it hands thankfully

Our economy and society are very different to New Zealand’s though - it wouldn’t have been possible to emulate their response in this country no-matter how early borders were closed IMO. Keeping it out/containing the virus in the U.K. for long enough for a vaccine to be developed would sink our economy.