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[eggsarascal]

51 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

Some fist fight to end up dead with all your fingers cut off eh mate?

..... Never to be seen again. What can we do, stop selling them Hardware?

[TIMON]

..... Never to be seen again. What can we do, stop selling them Hardware?

That’s unlikely to happen. There will or probably be a ‘token’ investigation and a couple of minor scapegoats punished. Maybe some positive overtures made in Israel’s direction and some more social reforms but I don’t think much will happen as current political and military strategies need The Saudis on side.

[Mark J]

12 minutes ago, TIMON said:

 

That’s unlikely to happen. There will or probably be a ‘token’ investigation and a couple of minor scapegoats punished. Maybe some positive overtures made in Israel’s direction and some more social reforms but I don’t think much will happen as current political and military strategies need The Saudis on side.

Yes, I think that the Saudis may have overstepped the mark - if that's possible. The Israelies need them on board or their game plan goes to bits. It's mad how the country who carried out 9/11 and funded AlQuada and ISIS are so important to our western needs. They behead people in public, dismember them in private and blow up civilians with weapons we sell them. I wouldn't do business with scum like that.

[Mark Bolam]

1 hour ago, TIMON said:

 

That’s unlikely to happen. There will or probably be a ‘token’ investigation and a couple of minor scapegoats punished. Maybe some positive overtures made in Israel’s direction and some more social reforms but I don’t think much will happen as current political and military strategies need The Saudis on side.

 

The Saudis probably think - ‘Well we didn’t do anything when you killed David Kelly, so that sort of thing must be fair.

[Mark J]

1 minute ago, Mark Bolam said:

The Saudis probably think - ‘Well we didn’t do anything when you killed David Kelly, so that sort of thing must be fair.

True, mind it appears that they gained massively from that hit.

[TIMON]

The Saudis probably think - ‘Well we didn’t do anything when you killed David Kelly, so that sort of thing must be fair.

There’s still a lump under a carpet in Whitehall somewhere. People were tripping up over it at first but it’s flattened out quite a bit now.

[openspaceman]

7 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Britain’s wealth, prosperity and status as a nation on the world stage still owe much to the courage and skill of the crews of the British ships and their great leader, Admiral Lord Nelson, that momentous day off Cape Trafalgar.

I don't doubt that but it may well be the reason  our leaders of industry didn't evolve the way the  German  and Japanese ones did, it was too easy to plunder wealth from elsewhere so we've coasted ever since. When things got rough, paying the americans back after the war, industry was not resilient enough to meet the challenge

[Khriss]

1 hour ago, TIMON said:

 

There’s still a lump under a carpet in Whitehall somewhere. People were tripping up over it at first but it’s flattened out quite a bit now.

 

Few more lumps - one of which will be that guy who organised the bomb attack training day, in front of a bus stop on just the day the bus blew up k  

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

4 hours ago, openspaceman said:

I don't doubt that but it may well be the reason  our leaders of industry didn't evolve the way the  German  and Japanese ones did, it was too easy to plunder wealth from elsewhere so we've coasted ever since. When things got rough, paying the americans back after the war, industry was not resilient enough to meet the challenge

I may be reading your post in a manner which it wasn't intended (or I might just be too far into the relatively cheap, easily accessible, good quality, non trade barrier advantage of wine from continental Europe - can't imagine how we ever survived before the EU (not at all connected to this post but I'm still mentally chuntering from my last but 1 post ?)) 

 

Are we on mixed time lines in your post or am I not reading as intended?  The spoils of Empire in relation to post WWII industrial development?  

Edited October 21, 2018 by kevinjohnsonmbe

[openspaceman]

13 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

The spoils of Empire in relation to post WWII industrial development?  

No, more the lax business ethos inherited from spoils of empire leading to unwillingness to forgo dividends in favour of investing in research and development.