Making the news today....

[stihlmadasever]

We should really  conscider changing the name of this thread to "arguements with matelot..."

Doesnt matter if you agree or disagree with him,its good reading.

 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

14 hours ago, scotspine1 said:

 

Foundation of the British Empire. Surprised at you Matelot.

 

All these happy little British kids used to read about ancient Greece and learned latin in school then when they grew up rampaged round the world pretending to be Hercules. Thus the British Empire was born

 

It's why they dont teach the classics now, same in the USA. Shame in a way, now all that the kids are taught is leftist PC propaganda and miserable victimhood.  

 

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Great shame....

 

The dependents of those terribly mistreated and exploited indigenous peoples are very quick to condemn, at every turn, the heinous crimes of the Empire - as exampled by Abeera Kamran; artivist, Aliyah Hasinah; writer, Mariam Khan; cultural activist, Sara Myers; textile designer, Shaheen Kasmani, writer and researcher Sumaya Kassim in their museum exhibition: The Past is Now - Birmingham’s relationship to the British Empire. 

 

http://www.birminghammuseums.org.uk/bmag/whats-on/the-past-is-now-birmingham-and-the-british-empire 

 

Whilst simultaneously seeming to gloss over the fact that their very existence, their current country of residence, and their ability to express their criticism is a demonstrable example of the positive consequences of post Empire.

 

Similarly, I wonder if Sheku Kannech-Mason's BAFTA BBC Young Musician of the Year award for his recital of Bach's Cello Suite No.1 in G major would have carried quite the same impact if he'd used a goat skin drum?  I'm guessing no....

 

At least, post Empire, we have the exemplar scenarios of sound governance, social stability, peace, prosperity and economic growth in those former colonies....  Oh no, we don't do we..... 

Edited February 27, 2018 by kevinjohnsonmbe

[stihlmadasever]

2 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Great shame....

 

The dependents of those terribly mistreated and exploited indigenous peoples are very quick to condemn, at every turn, the heinous crimes of the Empire - as exampled by Abeera Kamran; artivist, Aliyah Hasinah; writer, Mariam Khan; cultural activist, Sara Myers; textile designer, Shaheen Kasmani, writer and researcher Sumaya Kassim in their museum exhibition: The Past is Now - Birmingham’s relationship to the British Empire. 

 

http://www.birminghammuseums.org.uk/bmag/whats-on/the-past-is-now-birmingham-and-the-british-empire 

 

Whilst simultaneously seeming to gloss over the fact that their very existence, their current country of residence, and their ability to express their criticism is a demonstrable example of the positive consequences of post Empire.

 

Similarly, I wonder if Sheku Kannech-Mason's BAFTA BBC Young Musician of the Year award for his recital of Bach's Cello Suite No.1 in G major would have carried quite the same impact if he'd used a goat skin drum?  I'm guessing no....

 

At least, post Empire, we have the exemplar scenarios of sound governance, social stability, peace, prosperity and economic growth in those former colonies....  Oh no, we don't do we..... 

Are you saying if we were governing our former colonies they would be peaceful,prosperous and stable?

We cant even do that in our own country kevin

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

10 minutes ago, stihlmadasever said:

Are you saying if we were governing our former colonies they would be peaceful,prosperous and stable?

We cant even do that in our own country kevin

That wasn't what I was intimating...  Probably more that, since we aren't, those that are are making a fine horses ass of it...  Careful what you wish for, you might just get it 

 

It was more a (rather tired) reflection on the current, apparent, tendency (in certain 1/4s) to attempt, on the one hand, to criticise that which we don't have the ability to change and on the other, to wish to somehow re-write history so as only to record those bits that support an anti-imperialist record.

 

It's not restricted to single issues mind.  Whilst doing a ceremonial Oak planting at the nippers school a couple of weekends back, one of the teachers read a poem which referred to the historic use of English Oak and the men that built the ships that made for a great nation....

 

The reader 'corrected' herself and said "perhaps I should say 'men and women that built the ships...'  Well, no actually, it WOULD have been men NOT men and women - at that point in time.  Ridiculous to seek to re-write history based upon today's standards...  

[Gary Prentice]

3 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

quite the same impact if he'd used a goat skin drum?  I'm guessing no....

That cracked me up....

 

I wonder where your mind is sometimes 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

3 minutes ago, Gary Prentice said:

That cracked me up....

 

I wonder where your mind is sometimes 

 me too....!

 

I know where it’s NOT, it’s not where it should be with looming deadlines....

 

[stihlmadasever]

1 hour ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

The reader 'corrected' herself and said "perhaps I should say 'men and women that built the ships...'  Well, no actually, it WOULD have been men NOT men and women - at that point in time.  Ridiculous to seek to re-write history based upon today's standards...  

Agreed.

Too some,who are prone to,or even in positions that are overly exposed to the modern worlds facination with political correctness,its inconceivable to imply men were the ones who made nations great.

Dont let historical facts get in the way...

[matelot]

Imho, political correctness is like a religion for many people. It's a set of ideas that don't really stand up to scrutiny.

 

We often get told "all cultures are equal". That's clearly ludicrous, some cultures have clearly failed.... Some cultures are also better than others. Or does anyone here think that women should be treated as second class citizens? Or maybe homosexuals should be thrown off buildings?

 

We're then told that "diversity is strength". How can that be? Politically Correct people constantly tell us we're all the same then suddenly "diversity is strength"? Either all cultures are the same or they are not...

 

Then we're often told that the colonial powers were unbelievable evil by stealing resources 200 years ago. However it's a good idea to "steal" skilled workers (like nurses and doctors) from the third world... The third world is never going to improve if the West keeps on taking their skilled professional classes. Do people in the third world not need their nurses and doctors? Let's face it, people in places like Africa are dying because we've stolen their doctors....

 

Throughout history mankind has had some awful ideas. We used to believe that witches were real and we'd throw "witches" onto bonfires. We used to believe that earthquakes were a sign God was angry. IMHO, political correctness will go the same way as those beliefs....

 

Lets face it, it's only white western countries that spout this PC rubbish. No other country comes out with it.

[matelot]

12 hours ago, Rough Hewn said:

Congratulations everyone,
For distracting matelot from minority bashing.

How's the baking today? Bake anything nice?

 

 

 

[Khriss]

...Sorry to go Off topic- but what exactly is the news today ?? K