I'm astonished.

[difflock]

Less single parents living on State subsidies.

Ditto less divorced and separated couples.

All living on their ownsome, & most probably state kept.

Less defacto "couples" offically living apart, in separate state paid houses, to maximize their benefits, while they rent one house out for cash and live under the same roof.

Less couples with 17 or 27 children , demanding, and getting mega room mansions, at the public expense.

etc

etc

How the heck could any society provide for this unending unpaying demand, I can not comprehend.

Tis not necessarily the wealthy in their (earnt an paid for) Ivory Towers are to blame

 

 

little wonder there cannot be enough houses.

regards

marcus

[Haironyourchest]

Less single parents living on State subsidies.

Ditto less divorced and separated couples.

All living on their ownsome, & most probably state kept.

Less defacto "couples" offically living apart, in separate state paid houses, to maximize their benefits, while they rent one house out for cash and live under the same roof.

Less couples with 17 or 27 children , demanding, and getting mega room mansions, at the public expense.

etc

etc

How the heck could any society provide for this unending unpaying demand, I can not comprehend.

Tis not necessarily the wealthy in their (earnt an paid for) Ivory Towers are to blame

 

 

 

 

little wonder there cannot be enough houses.

regards

marcus

 

 

The barbarians are at the gates, and Nero is rosening his fiddle-bow...and we have socialism to thank for it.

[aspenarb]

The barbarians are at the gates, and Nero is rosening his fiddle-bow...and we have socialism to thank for it.

 

Kin excellent :lol::lol:

 

Bob

[eggsarascal]

You of all people surprise me EgG, dont worry what other folk say they earn because its usually a load of old tosh or confusion between turnover and profit . If you only need £150 a day and thats straight in your bin whats wrong with that?

 

Bob

 

B0d mAte,I'm not that Green that I take in whatever folk tell me. His £140k may or may not be true.

 

The point I was trying to get over was, £150/day in the city just doesn't make it.

 

I do some servicing work in Romford, costs me £26/day to park my van and walk almost a mile to the job. By the time/fuel to get there I can't make it add up.

 

How are other people?

[aspenarb]

 

The point I was trying to get over was, £150/day in the city just doesn't make it.

 

How are other people?

 

That would surely depend on your financial situation. If someone is mortgage free and there is a breeze of a job in town for a quick £150 I dont see a problem. If a guy is strapped to the neck in finance and needs all the finer things in life it would be a big no.

 

Just saying

 

Bob

Edited May 11, 2016 by aspenarb

[eggsarascal]

I was talking to a fella that I sold some drain cameras to the other day, he claimed he was 'doing' £140k a year working for a well known drainage outfit as a subby. He made it clear that he was out day and night to get that sort of tut. He was from outside the City, Watford, iirc.

 

How on earth then, when someone asks me to do a job in London can they ask me if £150/day would be acceptable?..... No I won't be doing it.

 

With the average house price in London being half a million quid how are people affording to live there?, unless they bought houses years ago.

 

Everyone can't commute in, Shirley.

 

Less single parents living on State subsidies.

Ditto less divorced and separated couples.

All living on their ownsome, & most probably state kept.

Less defacto "couples" offically living apart, in separate state paid houses, to maximize their benefits, while they rent one house out for cash and live under the same roof.

Less couples with 17 or 27 children , demanding, and getting mega room mansions, at the public expense.

etc

etc

How the heck could any society provide for this unending unpaying demand, I can not comprehend.

Tis not necessarily the wealthy in their (earnt an paid for) Ivory Towers are to blame

 

 

little wonder there cannot be enough houses.

regards

marcus

 

I'll go to the foot of our stairs.

 

I really do wonder about you at times.

[csservices]

Our eldest was living down there he had to live so far away from his job to find somewhere cheap enough to rent that it cost him a fortune in public transport everyday and he was living on pasta as his staple diet and when he came home looked like he'd been living in a third world country during a famine, finally saw the light and has moved to Lincoln with some friends from uni and is pursuing his dream somewhere where he isn't going to starve trying.

[Joe Newton]

I'll go to the foot of our stairs.

 

 

 

I really do wonder about you at times.

 

 

It's great isn't it.

 

I started reading this thread with interest, until it turned into a political socio economic topic

[eggsarascal]

They rent.

 

My daughter and other half are paying £1700pcm in Wimbledon and my son and other half have just got themselves a bargain in West Dulwich at a mere £1300pcm.

 

For those left who'd like to buy a) the mortgage repayments would be astronomical but the way to keep them down is to b) put down a huge deposit first, which they can't afford either.

 

But not everyone wants to buy like they did 20-30 years ago. Today's young things live for the moment more than we did and want to globetrot so are happy to spend on rent they can afford and have spending money left over rather than on a mortgage that would leave them nothing for leisure.

The globetrotting can either be holidays or time living abroad. In the case of the latter an intended move to a different country in 2-3 years is another reason not to get a mortgage. (My answer to that one is 'buy now if you can and rent it out when you go abroad' but it falls on deaf ears).

 

I understand the desire to live now and to see the world but I do wonder if these people realise that they are either going to need to make big money in their middle years in order to retire before they're 75 or they're likely to retire with next to nothing behind them: mention the words 'pension plan' and you're met with rolling eyes!

 

Seventeen hundred quid a month on rent, that must equate to two and a half grand when you take into account utilities, food, running a motor, or using public transport. For most people that would be a whole months salary. Whatever are these folk earning?

 

I shouldn't need to ask really. A mate of mines son, fresh out of univirsety went to work for one of the big banks his starting salary was eye watering..... And the bank paid the rent on his apartment in Canary Wharf.

 

I got into the wrong trade.

[nepia]

Seventeen hundred quid a month on rent, that must equate to two and a half grand when you take into account utilities, food, running a motor, or using public transport. For most people that would be a whole months salary. Whatever are these folk earning?

 

I shouldn't need to ask really. A mate of mines son, fresh out of univirsety went to work for one of the big banks his starting salary was eye watering..... And the bank paid the rent on his apartment in Canary Wharf.

 

I got into the wrong trade.

 

 

You certainly get into the wrong trade!!

 

Daughter's earning ~£35k in her first year with Deloitte, bf's earning at least that in his second year with the country's 5th largest accountants.

 

Son's earning ~£40k playing with code on a keyboard (has Masters in Computer Science), gf's converting to Law with KWM, huge law firm based in Hong Kong.

 

Emplyers vary hugely in their treatment of their employees: Deloitte are very personnel orientated whilst a previous employer in the family, IBM, are American - i.e. staff are resources, not people.