Poor tree work in conservation area

[Mull]

This thread is surely the saddest low-point of Arbtalk of the year, and it's still january.

 

Now I'm a purist and although I'm not a tree-hugger I would personally shoot anyone spiking a Birch in January, it will bleed and bleed until April, then suffer for another couple of years. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows this, and no-one who gives the slightest damn about trees or their personal professional reputation or about getting prosecuted would do it. We need trees, we don't need cowboys, an important difference. It's only a tree but we're only all in this world together and we all know that we can't trust politicians to care about anything but their own personal short-term prestige. How could Councils possibly police conservation areas, when resources are determined not by what needs to be done but by what is made available by politicians competing for popularity that is largely judged by how cheaply they can run the country?

 

Whether you should grass someone else up for doing it is maybe a sightly different matter. I'd say it's up to the conscience of the OP. If he listens to opinions of people on Arbtalk he is likely to wonder whether anyone in modern society cares about anything or anyone but themselves, and will probably drift towards that selfish indifferent attitude himself, as society is collectively doing.

 

OK Steve Bulman it's your website and just because you got an award for outstanding contribution to arboriculture doesn't mean you're not allowed to state a personal opinion here on Arbtalk. But there was something about your initial indifference, and how it spurred on the dont-give-a-fig brigade who personify the way that our industry again and again cons society and is almost inseperable from the cowboys that it sometimes berates and sometimes praises, that really gets me down this evening.

 

But in the morning I'll just get on with doing things properly for people who either care or trust me to care. It'll all make for a tiresome endless discussion in the treeless hell that we're all going to end up in together anyway.

 

Meantime I say grass the tossers up, make a diference, give a damn about someone other than yourself. That's my opinion and I'll take it to hell and back.

 

 

Good for you mate👍

The biggest contribution to the saddest thread, I sort of feel your pain, but remember it's an Internet forum. Expect nothing less!

[Gray git]

^^👍👍^^

Makes you wonder why we bother with applications when they won't follow up this sort of work when no application was placed, why wait just crack on and do it.

[MATTMOSS]

You tell em Jules!

[Thesnarlingbadger]

It's a valid point, but the guy didn't have a climbing line, so you can bet a pound to a pinch of s h I t that that is his modus operandi. Spikes and a flip line; so I don't reckon this is an isolated incident. He looked in his 50's so I don't reckon this old dog will be wanting to learn any new tricks!

 

 

That's true. But 50 is the new 40 or so they say. May have just been starting a new career.

It's true you can't change some peoples ways, so why try. If you went up and said what do you think your doing you would have just got a load of abuse. If you tell the council they would not bother doing anything about it.

I think it's terrible this sort of crap goes on on a daily bases but instead of getting angry about it I just think that tree will probably rot out now creating a habitat for wildlife. Every cloud and all that.

[IVECOKID]

This thread is surely the saddest low-point of Arbtalk of the year, and it's still january.

 

Now I'm a purist and although I'm not a tree-hugger I would personally shoot anyone spiking a Birch in January, it will bleed and bleed until April, then suffer for another couple of years. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows this, and no-one who gives the slightest damn about trees or their personal professional reputation or about getting prosecuted would do it. We need trees, we don't need cowboys, an important difference. It's only a tree but we're only all in this world together and we all know that we can't trust politicians to care about anything but their own personal short-term prestige. How could Councils possibly police conservation areas, when resources are determined not by what needs to be done but by what is made available by politicians competing for popularity that is largely judged by how cheaply they can run the country?

 

Whether you should grass someone else up for doing it is maybe a sightly different matter. I'd say it's up to the conscience of the OP. If he listens to opinions of people on Arbtalk he is likely to wonder whether anyone in modern society cares about anything or anyone but themselves, and will probably drift towards that selfish indifferent attitude himself, as society is collectively doing.

 

OK Steve Bulman it's your website and just because you got an award for outstanding contribution to arboriculture doesn't mean you're not allowed to state a personal opinion here on Arbtalk. But there was something about your initial indifference, and how it spurred on the dont-give-a-fig brigade who personify the way that our industry again and again cons society and is almost inseperable from the cowboys that it sometimes berates and sometimes praises, that really gets me down this evening.

 

But in the morning I'll just get on with doing things properly for people who either care or trust me to care. It'll all make for a tiresome endless discussion in the treeless hell that we're all going to end up in together anyway.

 

Meantime I say grass the tossers up, make a diference, give a damn about someone other than yourself. That's my opinion and I'll take it to hell and back.

 

 

Exactly how I feel about this thread and I said similar earlier but you said it better .

 

Ste

Edited January 29, 2016 by IVECOKID

[gooseflight]

@daltontrees -- thank you.

 

This reduction was done in the name of 'tree surgery'. If a surgeon removed your appendix with the same disregard for procedure, how would you feel?

 

You have to ask what is the local authority playing at? This must have been an approved and ticketed(?) contractor. Contact the TO and at least get them off the list.

[R Mac]

This thread is surely the saddest low-point of Arbtalk of the year, and it's still january.

 

Now I'm a purist and although I'm not a tree-hugger I would personally shoot anyone spiking a Birch in January, it will bleed and bleed until April, then suffer for another couple of years. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows this, and no-one who gives the slightest damn about trees or their personal professional reputation or about getting prosecuted would do it. We need trees, we don't need cowboys, an important difference. It's only a tree but we're only all in this world together and we all know that we can't trust politicians to care about anything but their own personal short-term prestige. How could Councils possibly police conservation areas, when resources are determined not by what needs to be done but by what is made available by politicians competing for popularity that is largely judged by how cheaply they can run the country?

 

Whether you should grass someone else up for doing it is maybe a sightly different matter. I'd say it's up to the conscience of the OP. If he listens to opinions of people on Arbtalk he is likely to wonder whether anyone in modern society cares about anything or anyone but themselves, and will probably drift towards that selfish indifferent attitude himself, as society is collectively doing.

 

OK Steve Bulman it's your website and just because you got an award for outstanding contribution to arboriculture doesn't mean you're not allowed to state a personal opinion here on Arbtalk. But there was something about your initial indifference, and how it spurred on the dont-give-a-fig brigade who personify the way that our industry again and again cons society and is almost inseperable from the cowboys that it sometimes berates and sometimes praises, that really gets me down this evening.

 

But in the morning I'll just get on with doing things properly for people who either care or trust me to care. It'll all make for a tiresome endless discussion in the treeless hell that we're all going to end up in together anyway.

 

Meantime I say grass the tossers up, make a diference, give a damn about someone other than yourself. That's my opinion and I'll take it to hell and back.

 

Well Said

[stihlmadasever]

Interesting read this thread,2 things id like to point out-not all shoddy work is down to gypsies,ive seen some blatant destructive tree work done by well established,reputable tree companys and secondly if the cowboy was reported to the council..who's too say the council would do anything anyway.

[Starscream]

secondly if the cowboy was reported to the council..who's too say the council would do anything anyway.

 

Erm, that's what I'm trying to find out.

[Island Lescure]

Jules

 

It may not do anything to report the perpetrators but, going to the client and informing them of what is to come with regards to the state of the birch may make them think about who to hire to do their tree work in the future...