Log Goblins

[eggsarascal]

22 minutes ago, difflock said:

Except farmers will be on a metered supply and paying for every drop,

the average consumer does not give a toss,

hey water's free.

innit !

P.S.

We are also on a metered supply, I know the cost of water, but actually I did before I had to pay for it, growing up on a non-mains supplied farmplace.

Tell me Marcus, what does a commercial water user pay per tonne.

 

Not forgetting what non-potable water they use.

Edited June 3, 2018 by eggsarascal

[openspaceman]

3 hours ago, eggsarascal said:

We'll have to agree to disagree on the first bit.

I've no problem with that

3 hours ago, eggsarascal said:

Water costs about £1.50/m3/tonne, without sewage costs, so in the grand scheme it's not a lot, but when you see how much water is put on domestic gardens over the summer months it's a huge amount,

I do only use a water butt if I need to water any plants

3 hours ago, eggsarascal said:

 

Just to add a bit, ask one of the few members on here who have narrow boats on the inland waterways if there is plenty of water about.

I do play with my mate's narrow boat and yesterday I was at the Caen Flight in Devizes, about 20 locks running down the hill with pounds in between, since that was restored in 1990 they have pumps at the bottom to return water to the top.

 

On our local canal which never had enough water for 5 barges per summer day when it carried goods, always closes to boats travelling the full length this time of year for at least 8 weeks from water shortage worries. This year they were pre empted by a visity boat shunting the lower gate, last weekend, at lock 18 of about 35 and putting the oak gate out of action so the pound will need draining in order to measure up and make a replacement (using french oak!).

 

The boat owner is a retired mechanical engineer and we while away  the cruise chatting about things we can agree on, he being a different kind of believer from I, and water recycling on the canal is a top topic.

[difflock]

Eggs,

I would need to find the last water bill, but since I incinerated it in the wood stove,, a tad difficult.

Anyway just Nth of £1.00/m3=1000 litres = 1 tonne.

there may be a %age discount for volume users?

But all I know is our 3/4" connection costs us more than our 1/2" connection, so perhaps not.

Now that the showering-while-still-asleep weans have growed up, we only use about 60m3 of the allowed 100m3 allowance, so we only pay for the meter.

I dug a 4.0m deep* well, by hand, to provide water for the garden, plus our roof water is directed via a pond before running to waste.

The "well" is pumped to an overhead 600gall=2700 litre tank

4.0m by 1.8m dia = 10m3 of spoil =nominal 20 tonne all hand-dug and  wheelbarrowed out.

cheers

marcus

P.S.
Must water me strawberries.

Edited June 3, 2018 by difflock

[Stere]

Have  6000 litre of water butts for veg garden & could do with double during a dry summer

 

 

 

 

 

 

[skyhuck]

8 hours ago, Vespasian said:

You know very well I'm talking about domestic tree jobs, not forestry..  you dick!!!!!.. 

I think you may be the “dick” of which you speak, as I was referring to “domestic” work, not forestry.

 

 

[Squaredy]

7 hours ago, difflock said:

Except farmers will be on a metered supply and paying for every drop,

Correct me if I am out of date but many farmers and other landowners have licenses to abstract water from rivers and streams.  In fact I believe this sometimes causes serious problems downstream where river levels are much too low for the wildlife attempting to live there.

 

Hasn't this thread covered a lot of ground.....water wastage, poverty, as well as log goblins.  I have been a log goblin years ago.....but always with permission from the owner.

[eggsarascal]

6 hours ago, openspaceman said:

I've no problem with that

I do only use a water butt if I need to water any plants

I do play with my mate's narrow boat and yesterday I was at the Caen Flight in Devizes, about 20 locks running down the hill with pounds in between, since that was restored in 1990 they have pumps at the bottom to return water to the top.

 

On our local canal which never had enough water for 5 barges per summer day when it carried goods, always closes to boats travelling the full length this time of year for at least 8 weeks from water shortage worries. This year they were pre empted by a visity boat shunting the lower gate, last weekend, at lock 18 of about 35 and putting the oak gate out of action so the pound will need draining in order to measure up and make a replacement (using french oak!).

 

The boat owner is a retired mechanical engineer and we while away  the cruise chatting about things we can agree on, he being a different kind of believer from I, and water recycling on the canal is a top topic.

Caen Hill is 16 locks on the K&A isn't it? How many locks are back pumped?

 

Anyway, anyone got any spare timber that Vesp can nick.

 

 

[eggsarascal]

5 hours ago, difflock said:

Eggs,

I would need to find the last water bill, but since I incinerated it in the wood stove,, a tad difficult.

Anyway just Nth of £1.00/m3=1000 litres = 1 tonne.

there may be a %age discount for volume users?

But all I know is our 3/4" connection costs us more than our 1/2" connection, so perhaps not.

Now that the showering-while-still-asleep weans have growed up, we only use about 60m3 of the allowed 100m3 allowance, so we only pay for the meter.

I dug a 4.0m deep* well, by hand, to provide water for the garden, plus our roof water is directed via a pond before running to waste.

The "well" is pumped to an overhead 600gall=2700 litre tank

4.0m by 1.8m dia = 10m3 of spoil =nominal 20 tonne all hand-dug and  wheelbarrowed out.

cheers

marcus

P.S.
Must water me strawberries.

Where does the water in your Well come from? You ain't thought this through have you?

[openspaceman]

14 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Caen Hill is 16 locks on the K&A isn't it? How many locks are back pumped?

That's about right , I didn't count them but in addition to the main flight there are several separate locks before and after. I talked with my friend about it today and it seems the water was always pumped, initially by a steam engine because the top pound  doesn't have a natural source.

 

This bit of info surprised me as there appears to be space in the ponds between the locks on the flight to make a diversion pond whereby the top half of the lock empties into it and it is used to refill the bottom  when next used. This is what is done to conserve half the water needed for each lock in other places. It does nothing for leakage though.

 

I wonder what the calculations were that made them decide to go for the locks rather than a tunnel.

 

[eggsarascal]

This is my point!!!! On the whole when that water goes through the lock it's gone, only replenished by feeders or resivours (sp) that run dry in the summer months. Most/almost all locks don't back pump, yes there are flights that have side pounds to save water, WE think the stuff is "on tap".

 

Anyone got any wood they don't want?