When does a person become a "tree surgeon"?

[skyhuck]

i just call myself a climber personally.

 

[Mesterh]

No!!!! and No!!!!!!

 

I do wish people would get the facts straight!!

 

What are the facts then?

With PL doesnt it matter who does what?

Not questing your wrong or anything just want to know

[bob]

Does it really matter

the word i would like to use is professional

not bother if it,s before tree surgeon or arborist or wood cutter or been called a lot worse

wonder if there is anyone out ther that has changed there name to tree surgeon by depole

[Dean Lofthouse]

Does it really matter

the word i would like to use is professional

 

Exactly!!

[skyhuck]

What are the facts then?

With PL doesnt it matter who does what?

Not questing your wrong or anything just want to know

 

You do not "legally" need NPTC or PL.

 

If you employ staff you DO "legally" need EL.

 

It really irritates me when people talk about "chainsaw licenses" and say NPTC is LAW, IT IS NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

IMO, PL should be a legal requirement, but its not.

[Yorkshireman]

So basically

Is A tree surgeon a person, to whom someone else will happily pay a fee to carryout work to their own tree ?

[Mesterh]

You do not "legally" need NPTC or PL.

 

If you employ staff you DO "legally" need EL.

 

It really irritates me when people talk about "chainsaw licenses" and say NPTC is LAW, IT IS NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

IMO, PL should be a legal requirement, but its not.

 

For some reason I did think PL was a legal requirement but I think it was you who put me straight in another thread I also think it should be a legal requirement also.

 

I was sort of asking if the NPTC'c etc are a requirement of a PL policy ie they may not pay out if whoever caused the accident/damage etc wasnt trained. I thought thats what Highland Forestry meant.

 

I know with my EL they asked a load of questions about whoever it covers must have relative NPTC's training etc, just couldnt remember if they ask the same questions regarding PL.

[Dean Lofthouse]

I know with my EL they asked a load of questions about whoever it covers must have relative NPTC's training etc, just couldnt remember if they ask the same questions regarding PL.

 

I would imagine that an insurance company would ask for proof of competence, in my veiw NPTC is an easy proof of basic competence, however, experience is the best form of competence but is a little harder to prove

 

I'd just turn round and hand them my list of clients and tell them to ask for a reference off any one of them

[Pete Mctree]

From AFAG

 

16 In-house, college or specialist training needs to provide

an equivalent standard of training to any recognised training

and certification that is available, but not mandatory. This

means that detailed records need to be kept to show who

provided the training (including their level of competence), what

the training consisted of, its duration and how it was carried out.

Post-course assessment of competence and a system of quality

assurance will also be needed.

 

 

Fine in theory, but I would hate to have to defend inhouse training and certification to the gent in the wig when the poo has hit the fan.

 

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/afag805.pdf here is the full document

[Dean Lofthouse]

It would be amusing the gent in the wig telling a 20 years under the belt hairy arsed forester that he wasn't competent because he didn't have his chainsaw ticket