When does a person become a "tree surgeon"?

[Topher Martyn]

Are there any arborists out there with the training or expertise comparable to a medical surgeon?

 

I know hte term is recognised, but its still bloody silly. And lopping and topping is recognised, but it doesn't make it good practice.

 

Call yourselves arborists, and you can always explain if someone is confused!

[Jason James Gairn]

Are there any Arabists out there with the training or expertise comparable to a medical surgeon?

 

I know hate term is recognized, but its still bloody silly. And lopping and topping is recognized, but it doesn't make it good practice.

 

Call yourselves Arabists, and you can always explain if someone is confused!

 

No offense Topher, but can you re-post that. i didn't understand what "hte term is recognised" means. What's bloody silly?

Surgery can mean a few things. "I go up to the surgery when I have pubic lice". "My local BNP politician is having a surgery" Within medicine, surgery has many disciplines, blatantly with neuro surgery being the most complex.

 

Common usage is what's most important, but the history is very interesting all the same.

[Will Hinchliffe]

Arabists?

 

Arabiculture?

 

Arab husbandry?

[Jason James Gairn]

Arabists?

 

Arabiculture?

 

Arab husbandry?

 

Hadn't spotted that. Very fine indeed. You can make the brightest spark seem clumsy with spell o check.

[Gavin]

Hadn't spotted that. Very fine indeed. You can make the brightest spark seem clumsy with spell o check.

 

have all my tickets and years of exsp but every day is different

call myself a tree surgeon but you could call us areial labourers but it dont sound as good.

will call myself a arborist when i am getting paid for advice

and a tree surgeon when doing the practical side

[Kenny McGregor]

im not really sure how my opinion will go down here but here goes,

 

i think a tree surgeon is someone who has cs 30, 31, 38 and 39 and 5 years experience and an arborist is all of above with at a good few more years experience

 

I dont think thats an controversial statememt Alasdair. It takes a fair while to get the swing of it in the climbing side of things (sorry no pun intended). After all, we all know that education, qulifications, and experience all go hand in hand. Them more you get of each the better you personally become.

[Czlowiek Drzewo]

You've just opened a can of worms with that.

 

exactly!

 

though it doesn't make you an arborist.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Job description

Arboriculturists cultivate and manage trees, hedgerows and shrubs. The work is undertaken in both rural and urban settings and includes all aspects of felling, preserving, planting and protecting trees, sometimes using heavy equipment. They also provide information and advice on specific tree-related issues. There is an increasing focus on maintaining a safe relationship between the trees, their immediate environment, and the general public. Arboriculturists who do only hands-on tree and shrub maintenance may be called arborists.

 

Arboriculturists usually specialise in a particular area of work, such as tree climbing and maintenance, tree preservation and conservation, parks and gardens, planning, or tree survey and inspection. Advances in tree biology, equipment and techniques have resulted in fundamental changes to traditional tree work practices, and arboriculture has moved away from the ‘tree surgery’ approach to a ‘tree care’ approach.

 

Typical work activities

Typical work activities vary between specific areas of arboriculture.

 

An arborist works at a practical level and visits a range of sites in order to:

 

plant trees and shrubs;

undertake thinning and tree surgery using a range of equipment;

undertake groundwork using a chainsaw and a chipper.

An arboriculturist may be involved in the same activities as an arborist, but works at a supervisory/managerial level and will also be involved in:

 

selecting plants and designing landscaping schemes;

applying knowledge of tree biology for effective tree maintenance;

following and negotiating clients' requirements;

managing tree care and tree planting contracts;

carrying out tree inspections and surveys;

writing reports for engineers, solicitors, mortgage and insurance companies, providing information relating to trees, for example if a tree root system is damaging or likely to damage a building or cause subsidence;

reviewing and responding to planning applications;

providing training for junior colleagues and volunteers;

conducting development site surveys and giving pre-planning advice on topics such as the effect a proposed development may have on trees in the area, and how best to retain them and incorporate them into the finished project.

In urban areas, the work involves improving the relationship between the environment and urban development through activities such as:

 

reclaiming abandoned industrial sites;

pruning tree growth away from electrical cables and public access routes;

developing practical solutions to environmental issues;

advising on trees for development sites.

 

Reference- (prospects, the UKs official graduate careers advice website)

[Ben90]

How about 'Tree editing & removal tool'?

[stuart blunsom]

As one lad said you have opened a can of worms, i started work of a firm back 1985 yes 1985, you had to do two years work on the ground, And after this here got you climbing small trees, And after a time you moved on to bigger trees, I work my way up to the main climber and was made team leader

we had two gangs, I was in total charge of all the lads, tools/vans/ect. in my 12 years working for this firm, we had lads coming to joint us, I have had about 20 or so lads come to work at this tree surgery firm,

We had lads who had came out of collage with all the tickets you could ask

for,

Ye lads pulling up in the yard with ropes/harnesses/karabiners hanging up in there vans ect. i would ask wot jobs can you carry out, We can do most jobs out of 20 lad we kept four,

Where i am going with this, when a person become a tree surgeon, Do the collage and get at least 3 years working for a company doing ground and climling work, after this time you can call your self a tree surgeon, To many lad do the course at collage get all the tickets a think they a tree surgery, This is not a pop at all you new lad, Some lads come out of collage and can

do it all, Sorry for going on.