Overloaded

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

4 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

Maybe so you don’t snap a spring?

 could you have got blocks from a place much nearer and done two trips?

edit just to say again YOU aren’t paying for delivery the client is so who cares?

They were bad weight carriers to start with this has just prompted me to put bigger ones on and yeah but £148 + VAT a pack to £30 I price the job at a set price for each m2 so if I get the cheaper packs it earns me more at the end 

Jack 

[Richard 1234]

2 minutes ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

They were bad weight carriers to start with this has just prompted me to put bigger ones on and yeah but £148 + VAT a pack to £30 I price the job at a set price for each m2 so if I get the cheaper packs it earns me more at the end 

Jack 

Out of interest how do you manage to miscalculate by 30 or so m2?

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

13 minutes ago, Big J said:

Your attitude is absolutely appalling.

What do people expect I've had 7 pages so far of people rattling on about my puc what about the other 80 odd pages have they all had lectures aswell? 

 

You cannot equate overloading by a small percentage with the extent to which you are routinely taking it. A few hundred kilos is still within the foreseeable parameters to which the vehicle is designed. The chances are you are still within your axle weights. 200% overloaded means all components on the vehicle are massively stressed and primed to fail. 

If I was to get stopped on a weigh bridge by the police or whoever it is whatever weight I'm over I'd have to take off its as simple as that 

 

You say that other road users "used their common sense and gave me space", which sounds like a euphemism for "they recognised I was running around with a dangerous load and engaged in self preservation".

To me it's common sense if it's called self preservation then so be it 

 

Your one and only defense of your actions thus far has been to save money, which is no defense at all.

And time 

 

I won't do it personally, but don't be surprised if someone tracks you down and reports you to the police on the basis of your posts on this thread.You've so far provided photographic proof of gross overloading , shown full understanding of how far overloaded you are, shown no remorse for doing so, and provided photographic proof of mechnical failures on your vehicle as a result of your overloading.

If anyone wants to do that let them they'll just be wasting their time

You should not be on the road, but equally worrying seems to be the extent to which you seem happy to incriminate yourself on what is a public forum. 

Just like the other 80 odd pages?

Jack 

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

7 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

Out of interest how do you manage to miscalculate by 39. 04 m2?

I didn't the job get extended ?

 

Jack 

[Big J]

What do people expect I've had 7 pages so far of people rattling on about my puc what about the other 80 odd pages have they all had lectures aswell? 

I cannot recall in 80 pages anyone so flagrantly and knowingly overloading their vehicle.

 

If I was to get stopped on a weigh bridge by the police or whoever it is whatever weight I'm over I'd have to take off its as simple as that Not the case at all. From a brief Google search, it would appear that being in excess of 30% overloaded means impounding of vehicle, £300 fine, court summons and invalidation fo insurance if involved in an accident. I can only imagine that being 200% overloaded would result in more serious consequences.

 

To me it's common sense if it's called self preservation then so be it No other road user should have to feel the need to take evasive action because of your idiot behaviour

 

And time Again, you're justifying your actions only on the basis of your own selfish gain, whether that is money or time

 

If anyone wants to do that let them they'll just be wasting their time And why is that? 

 

Just like the other 80 odd pages? You are the stand out example of awful motoring practice. People like you, running around in 3.5t class vehicles with precious little concern for the safety of others or the law, are the reason why the rest of us get routinely pulled by the DVSA.

 

My responses are in red.

[Richard 1234]

9 minutes ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

I didn't the job get extended ?

 

Jack 

That’s part of the problem then. Tell people they have to wait for things like that if you are short on time or put price up to cover getting stuff brought to you.

[Big J]

Second google search result for "Penalties for overloaded vehicles". I would say that you are comfortably into the zone to which the red highlighted text refers.

 

What to do if you’re fined for overloading your vehicle:

If you have an address in the UK, you will have 28 days to pay the above fines, or ask for a court hearing if you want an appeal.

If you don’t have an address in the UK the authorities find ‘satisfactory’ (bed and breakfast, hotel, agency or solicitor’s addresses are not normally accepted), you will have to pay the fine on the spot, or £500 per offence if you go to court. Any excess you paid will be refunded after you’ve paid all your fines.

As you will see, if you have seriously exceeded your permitted weight you will be required to go to court. In most situations you will be made to pay a fine if found guilty (up to £500) – but if you’ve overloaded the van to the point where it is a real hazard to other road users you could be charged with dangerous driving. This is a serious offence which normally carries a prison sentence.

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

24 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

That’s part of the problem then. Tell people they have to wait for things like that if you are short on time or put price up to cover getting stuff brought to you.

Normally I would've but the house is on the market and it's got viewings next week and the bit what's been added looked untidy so wanted it doing ASAP plus its for a care company that I get a fair amount of work from 

 

Jack 

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

 

1 hour ago, Big J said:

Second google search result for "Penalties for overloaded vehicles". I would say that you are comfortably into the zone to which the red highlighted text refers.

 

What to do if you’re fined for overloading your vehicle:

If you have an address in the UK, you will have 28 days to pay the above fines, or ask for a court hearing if you want an appeal.

If you don’t have an address in the UK the authorities find ‘satisfactory’ (bed and breakfast, hotel, agency or solicitor’s addresses are not normally accepted), you will have to pay the fine on the spot, or £500 per offence if you go to court. Any excess you paid will be refunded after you’ve paid all your fines.

As you will see, if you have seriously exceeded your permitted weight you will be required to go to court. In most situations you will be made to pay a fine if found guilty (up to £500) – but if you’ve overloaded the van to the point where it is a real hazard to other road users you could be charged with dangerous driving. This is a serious offence which normally carries a prison sentence.

So is it just easier to say we both have completley different opinions to what we think is a safe load? We're just going around in circles here? 

 

Jack 

 

 

[Big J]

5 hours ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

 

So is it just easier to say we both have completley different opinions to what we think is a safe load? We're just going around in circles here? 

 

Jack 

 

 

I work in forestry, with a fairly long history in sawmilling. I've worked with timber hauliers for almost ten years and will be co-running a timber lorry later in the year. My opinion is also backed up by the law. Your opinion is that if it saves you money and time, it's fair game.

 

Your arrogance is extraordinary.