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[william127]

  On 26/11/2019 at 15:18, Justme said:

How many hours was the course & how much did it cost?

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2 days, including the test. 

£500 all in. 

It was a decent course with a decent instructor, just that there were lots of more real world aspects of driving/towing that didn't really come up. Probably because after talking to my instructor and doing the first hour or so he could see I was fine with towing and reversing, it was just getting back into test style driving so that's what we focused on. Oh, and there arnt exactly many big hills in Tilbury ??

[Justme]

  On 26/11/2019 at 19:38, william127 said:

2 days, including the test. 

£500 all in. 

It was a decent course with a decent instructor, just that there were lots of more real world aspects of driving/towing that didn't really come up. Probably because after talking to my instructor and doing the first hour or so he could see I was fine with towing and reversing, it was just getting back into test style driving so that's what we focused on. Oh, and there arnt exactly many big hills in Tilbury ??

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2 "days"?

 

Round here most trainers call 3 - 5 hours a day.

Our training days are 7 hours.

 

 

I hear lots of people say similar to your re the test & what they learnt on the course they took. You then find they did the shortest / cheapest course they could so you do only have just enough time to cover the minimum to pass the test & not enough to actually learn the subject or cover best practice.

[htb]

  On 26/11/2019 at 20:04, Justme said:

 

I hear lots of people say similar to your re the test & what they learnt on the course they took. You then find they did the shortest / cheapest course they could so you do only have just enough time to cover the minimum to pass the test & not enough to actually learn the subject or cover best practice.

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No different to people doing the car test though.

[william127]

  On 26/11/2019 at 20:04, Justme said:

2 "days"?

 

Round here most trainers call 3 - 5 hours a day.

Our training days are 7 hours.

 

 

I hear lots of people say similar to your re the test & what they learnt on the course they took. You then find they did the shortest / cheapest course they could so you do only have just enough time to cover the minimum to pass the test & not enough to actually learn the subject or cover best practice.

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8 hours the first day, 4 hours the second day, test in the afternoon . 

I have no complaints about the amount or quality of the training I got for the money, my instructor was teaching me to pass the test.

My point is more that if you have no experience of real world  towing or loading, did your test then went out towing real loads, you might be in for a bit of a shock....

Edited November 26, 2019 by william127

[Justme]

  On 26/11/2019 at 20:10, htb said:

No different to people doing the car test though.

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That is a very old fashioned view of the learning to drive / pass the test. Perhaps when most took 5-10 hours to pass the learn to pass then learn to drive after had some validity. Now most take far more hours covering far more situations prior to test. You you still need to gain experience but you should have a far better grasp on driving than previously.

[Justme]

  On 26/11/2019 at 20:34, william127 said:

8 hours the first day, 4 hours the second day, test in the afternoon . 

I have no complaints about the amount or quality of the training I got for the money, my instructor was teaching me to pass the test.

My point is more that if you have no experience of real world  towing or loading, did your test then went out towing real loads, you might be in for a bit of a shock....

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Perhaps they do longer courses that include that for people with less experience? Not all courses are the same. 

[htb]

  On 26/11/2019 at 20:36, Justme said:

That is a very old fashioned view of the learning to drive / pass the test. Perhaps when most took 5-10 hours to pass the learn to pass then learn to drive after had some validity. Now most take far more hours covering far more situations prior to test. You you still need to gain experience but you should have a far better grasp on driving than previously.

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I might be old, but I don't see much improvement in driving standards. Look at the accident/ fatality rate for newly past drivers. 

 

 

 

[Justme]

  On 26/11/2019 at 20:48, htb said:

I might be old, but I don't see much improvement in driving standards. Look at the accident/ fatality rate for newly past drivers. 

 

 

 

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Think back to the road conditions when you learnt to drive compared to what they have to deal with today.

 

Accident stats have I think improved over the years. Considering the road changes that's surprising.

 

Accident stats for old drivers is not too good either

[william127]

  On 26/11/2019 at 20:37, Justme said:

Perhaps they do longer courses that include that for people with less experience? Not all courses are the same. 

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Yes, they offered 1, 2 or 3 days, all including the test, although they did say the 1 day was really just aimed at people who had failed the test and just needed to revisit something and redo the test. 

[htb]

  On 26/11/2019 at 20:55, Justme said:

Think back to the road conditions when you learnt to drive compared to what they have to deal with today.

 

 

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What blindly following sat navs, watching videos on their phones etc. Just drive down a dual carriageway/motorway and watch them all in the overtaking lane approach a junction at the 100m marker peel off cutting everyone up to get to the junction, that sat nav just told them to take.

This is an improvement your having a laugh. no idea of what's around them or watching the road ahead.