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What should/can we do about one handed top handled saw use?  

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  1. 1. What should/can we do about one handed top handled saw use?

    • should one handed use be allowed
      57
    • should one handed use be banned
      5
    • should one handed use be covered more via training in Cs39 (like a pass plus)
      39
    • should one handed use have its own CS module
      10
    • should work positioning be taught to a specified level in more depth on Cs39
      31
    • should cs39 be longer than a 3 day course
      29
    • should top handles only be sold to people carrying a possible pass plus cert
      20
    • should cutting and holding be common practice
      23
    • should cutting and holding be banned
      13
    • other comments in thread please
      4


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I was 4 years on the ground before climbing, and 2 of those years i spent climbing steel free hand, so my strength and balance was good. Once i finally got a chance to climb within 6 months i was running my own business and have been for over 12 years. I have NEVER cut myself with a chainsaw and only caught myself with a silky last year. All my views come from experience, not theory.

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One thing I have come to do now is to automatically hold the saw at the stub of the cut, after the branch is cut.

 

In other words I dont follow through, then if you do "direct" the branch with a flick of the hand, the saw is still up out of the way.

 

Again, these things come with a little experience I think

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I feel when I use a saw it's like a extension of my body or part of it same as jcb drivers I know reckon they can dig soil but feel pipes through the joy sticks in the cab. You can use a saw one handed safely but you can't teach it and the lads who think it is dangerous obviously don't feel comfortable doing it and shouldn't but I know the lads who do are standing up for themselves as they feel they can do it safely but are not encouraging others to do it.

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I think the statistics are very mis-leading.

 

Chainsaw accidents will be lumped together whether they are ariel, ground, pro or diy.

 

Just like my mewp accident didn't attract the attention of the HSE because "no-one died". Although it was reported to them but very little detail was requested.

 

Your accident pete, was just that, an accident, it wasn't bad chainsaw use. Statistics should reflect this

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you could never lagitimise 1 handed use, as it would be like teaching peoplw how to speed when they are learning to drive.

 

If the current guidlines were followed IMHO the number of accidents cut l arm would plumbet massivley. every single year i see at least 3 people on a cource as they have unziped them selves and thought they better re-train/get trained.

 

the question about the bit of AFAG where it says only if you can preserve safe working ie 2 attach, and you cant get a decent work position is when one handed for that op should happen, by the very virtue of that description, it is a harder tree, and a novice should not be on the cource.

 

my thought

 

kev

 

yhh i agree

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Has anyone thought of the complications and costs arising from bringing in another CS unit or additional advanced courses?

 

Would all employers have to get there staff on another course or risk not complying with there care of duty/insurance requirements etc.

 

Or is it just me being a tight git:blushing:

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