Lets see your Guns.

[Johnsond]

26 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

It’s hard to tell from that screen, but the bull actually has a diameter of 4m.

I can remember doing reasonably ok with iron sights on the old SLR before converting to SA80. 

Nowadays with a lot older eyes apart from shotguns everything I own is scoped up. Be bloody pointless otherwise. 

[Joe Newton]

2 hours ago, Mike Hill said:

No entirely sure,I think the black bit is 8cm . 10mm between each ring?

 

The vital zone on that deer target is 30cm across.

So probably an 8cm grouping at 100m with irons. Impressive.

 

I doubt i could hit my Mrs at that range, and she's about the size of a well fed deer. 

[dan blocker]

On 16/11/2016 at 10:14, Stihl123 said:

what's best and quickest way to zero your scope?

just set target, fire, adjust and do it that way?

 

or have any of you tried using these? clamp it in, fire, then set scope to the point of impact!?

MTM K-Zone Rifle Bench Rest Shooting Hunting Air Gun Scope Zeroing | eBay

 

thanks

A bump from way back 🤔. Quickest way to zero a full bore rifle is to put your rifle on a bench or mound and hold firm with some shot bags or sand bags. Take bolt out and look down the barrel and adjust rifle onto the top of a stake or picket 100 - 150 metres away. When top of stake/ picket is centre of barrel adjust scope onto same point. You’ll then be able to send down a 3 shot group at 100 mts and adjust from that. I use 3 shots not 5 to adjust to save ammo then fire a 5 round group to confirm. If the Zulu’s are coming the first stage is enough to keep their heads down😳

[difflock]

I have always been perplexed by people making a fuss or mystery zeroing scopes. Visual alignment, large target close in, well bedded/supported rifle, even 1 round and adjust if way off, then fine tune at increasing/longer ranges.

Simples, or it should be.

Ditto for peep sights on target rifles, I almost never have had reason to touch mine, yet other blokes seem to be endlessly adjusting their sights.

Hey Ho.

[GarethM]

3 minutes ago, difflock said:

I have always been perplexed by people making a fuss or mystery zeroing scopes. Visual alignment, large target close in, well bedded/supported rifle, even 1 round and adjust if way off, then fine tune at increasing/longer ranges.

Simples, or it should be.

Ditto for peep sights on target rifles, I almost never have had reason to touch mine, yet other blokes seem to be endlessly adjusting their sights.

Hey Ho.

Big arse piece of plywood or card, start at say 20m and keep going back.

 

And these parallax scopes, wtf know you're drops.

[Stubby]

7 hours ago, GarethM said:

Big arse piece of plywood or card, start at say 20m and keep going back.

 

And these parallax scopes, wtf know you're drops.

On your scope , when you remove the cover on the up/down adjuster is there a rotational arrow saying Up or Down and if it says for example Down does that mean that if you tun the adjuster in the direction of the arrow the scope will go down or the shot placement will go down ? Coz if your scope goes down your shot placement will go up and if your scope goes up your shot will go down ( all for a given range discounting drop ) If you don't know what it refers to you can get in a right old mess ! 

[GarethM]

Depends on the scope to be honest, Hawke have a great phone application that works that out for making zero easier.

 

But with a normal scope you set the zero and don't ever adjust unless something changes.

[AHPP]

Tell the bullet where to go. Usually. I think some relatively uncommon scopes are the other way round. Not Pecars but something about that rare. 

 

And if you find zeroing day scopes tricky, try the digital night vision or thermals with the ballistics built in. 

[Mike Hill]

Bit of an update on the Brownings from a renown sa expert I send the pictures to.

 

You are correct regarding the .303 Brownings firing from an open bolt and an unfired round should not be in the chamber. It is possible that the gun was damaged in some way during a dog fight and could not fire as the round was chambered. Who knows?

 

What is clear is that the gun is from a wing mount, either a Hurricane or Spitfire and the plain tube is actually part of the wing into which the gun was fitted. The wings had access panels and the guns were inserted from the rear into the aluminium tubes which were part of the front of the wing structure. When the plane crashed the guns complete with mounting tubes were ripped from the wing.

 

What a fascinating find! The cartridge is headstamped as a B IVZ which was an incendiary round specifically for aircraft use. colloquially known as "Buckingham'.

 

Cheers

Rod 

[Johnsond]

5 hours ago, Mike Hill said:

Bit of an update on the Brownings from a renown sa expert I send the pictures to.

 

You are correct regarding the .303 Brownings firing from an open bolt and an unfired round should not be in the chamber. It is possible that the gun was damaged in some way during a dog fight and could not fire as the round was chambered. Who knows?

 

What is clear is that the gun is from a wing mount, either a Hurricane or Spitfire and the plain tube is actually part of the wing into which the gun was fitted. The wings had access panels and the guns were inserted from the rear into the aluminium tubes which were part of the front of the wing structure. When the plane crashed the guns complete with mounting tubes were ripped from the wing.

 

What a fascinating find! The cartridge is headstamped as a B IVZ which was an incendiary round specifically for aircraft use. colloquially known as "Buckingham'.

 

Cheers

Rod 

Cheers Rod 

Some cracking info there bud, we had to put them back on the sea bed at a wet store location. The archeological rep has got more involved in the process now. Hopefully one of other mag targets is a nice chunk of Merlin engine. 
Much appreciated 

Dave 👍
Been looking online and looks like your source nailed it 👍barrel shrouds are clearly visible in the pic. 

Edited May 18, 2024 by Johnsond