Depression

[sime42]

10 minutes ago, Tree monkey 1682 said:

Ha, I was going to put this up, you beat me to it, from my experience a lot better than steps to well being through the nhs

 

Certainly a lot quicker I expect. Another thing is the fact that it's not "professionals",  just normal blokes you're talking to means you're all on a similar level. Much easier for them to relate to what you're saying, and vice versa. 

 

A mate of mine at work went to his local group and said it really helped him to get out of a hole. 

 

 

[Tree monkey 1682]

10 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

Certainly a lot quicker I expect. Another thing is the fact that it's not "professionals",  just normal blokes you're talking to means you're all on a similar level. Much easier for them to relate to what you're saying, and vice versa. 

 

A mate of mine at work went to his local group and said it really helped him to get out of a hole. 

 

 

If found the group better than the nhs , nhs was good at one point , but now they've gone  woke -you open up and the  councillors go running -they cant cope with death, flipping pathetic.  And last time I spoke to them they said they couldn't help due to funding - after that they said 'is tye anything else I can do to help'? I said what would u do if I said id self harm or worse , the reply was silent... I just said pathetic hunts and hung up .

Alot of the guys are on a broad spectrum , I thought id dispise it due to not liking to integrate,  I carry people and I see alot of people as weak, not wanting to help themselves. Yet people failure freshold is many levels , mines high .

Problem is men dont talk, then its too  late ..its never easy recovering a body and explaining to family 

[tree-fancier123]

40 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

I normally just click on the last scene from Blackadder Goes Forth and everything comes into perspective.

We’ve really got it pretty easy compared to those poor lads over 100 years ago.

that has given me an idea for an app

vicarious suffering on demand VSOD

feeling unhappy with your lot - watch footage of someone being blown up by a land mine, or dying of syphilis, being beaten by a Sudanese militia, starving for months on end etc. All the worst suffering in the world at your fingertips.

Sunshine on a rainy day

[Fellstoflats]

1 hour ago, Stephen Blair said:

Keep busy!  Eat well and don’t drink alcohol.  

+1 for binning the alcohol. There's plenty of decent alcohol free options now, which are worth a go

[topchippyles]

10 minutes ago, Fellstoflats said:

+1 for binning the alcohol. There's plenty of decent alcohol free options now, which are worth a go

Something I've battled with all my life unfortunately. I hadn't had a drink for a month up until Tuesday this week I just had to do something to try and lift my frame of mind yet you feel worse after it.

[skc101fc]

"A mate of mine at work went to his local group and said it really helped him to get out of a hole."

 

"Problem is men dont talk, then its too late ..its never easy recovering a body and explaining to family" 

 

The hardest task I can ever do in life is to open that door handle and say 'hello, I'd appreciate some help'. My own stubbornness may (-will) one day be my undoing.

Edited 1 hour ago by skc101fc

[sandspider]

Samaritans are worth a phone call if you need to vent.

 

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[spuddog0507]

Sorry to hear about this les, i will be 100% honest on this, as if i can help someone from my own past encounters i will do,, 

I will say this just as it is,, i got diagnosed with depression in mid 90s after a marriage break up, my GP put me on some meds and tbh i was asleep on my feet for a few days after taking about 3 of the tablets prescribed hence i did,nt take any more of em as they didnt help one bit, i got my self back to some sort of normality after several months of doing things i liked doing, this bit was not easy at all as it seemed like it was a massive effort to get a bit of fishing gear together and clear off for a few days,,

Then after about 9 mths i started going in to Preston on a saturday night with a group of lads i worked with and boy was i enjoying myself, at this time i was enjoying life but i knew there was something going on in side me that i never talked about with any one, at this time a divorce had been settled and i had got my house back for very little so happy days, At this time (late 90s) i was in a small pheasant shoot that involved a lot of walking (photo below, after lunch we walked the entire length of the fell)  and the following couple of days i was totaly fooked and very low,i then went to My GP with this issue several times over a 18mth period and drew a blank till i so a young stand in GP who took me round to a nurses room for bloods to be taken, 2 days later got a call from GPs surgery to come in, i went and so the main man practice manager who i had al ready seen 5 or 6 times, turns out that my thyroxine level was near on zero hence to problem, He put me on meds for this and i was then in every 2 mths for moor bloods to be taken, i did feel much better after this but i still felt there was still something else ? Fast forward to approx 2005 and when i went to work i was ready for home by dinner as it just felt like the battery had run out, Then after several more GP appointments and getting no where again it was another young stand in GP that picked up on something and i was sent to a ME specialist, on my first appointment i was diagnosed with a 86% case of ME, life at this time was very difficult and even some general day to day chores felt like i was climbing Everest, My ME lady gave me a book and it was just like reading about myself but in this book was a section on diet and basically cut crap food out and eat good decent food, i will admit i did used to eat a few ready meals, takeaways and convenience foods, today i hardly eat any crap food and as for takeaways may be one a month if that,, 

i would ask for a blood test for thyroxine levels if i was you as this may fast forward things for you unlike myself where it was dragged out for ages,

The meds they put me on many years ago work well for me and if i do run out and miss a few days things seem to go backwards pretty fast, i know weather dont help issues like this as it just seems to be crap day in day out, chin up lad keep smiling and i hope things work out for you,,