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On 28/06/2023 at 19:49, Shaunpaul said:

Hi, anyone any ideas why chipper starts from cold but sometimes struggles once warm to start up again?  But then leave for 10 mins and starts first turn again 🤔. Changed plug and all filters but no joy. It’s a 150 petrol 2019 just over 450 hours.

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We would recommend booking it in with somewhere that has the Vanguard diagnostic equipment. Has the ECU ever been updated? This should be done as part of the service. Is the inline fuel filter the correct fine B&S one? Not a universal inline? They should also be able to test / check the high pressure fuel pump. 

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1 hour ago, Ty Korrigan said:

Have any dealers ever actually fixed this fairly common fault or do Vanguard owners just give up and go back to diesel?

  

 

 

Spoken from experience Ty?

I remember your experiences.

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I had this issue with a forst in the end just traded it in for a diesel best decision ever. 
 

but with my forst I know this will sound crazy but if you blow into the fuel tank and then quickly put the cap back on it would start fine when hot. If you didn’t it would just keep turning over and never start. 

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The third time the engine had running problems, the chipper was away for 15+ months at the next closest Briggs Efi certified mechanic over 2 hours away. 

The first Efi guy an hour away was a sulky twunt with a permanent Gallic shrug.

After a few months of renting and wee Chinesium chippering, I decided to blow my house deposit on a new diesel chipper rather than go into the Autumn without a reliable machine.

The mechanic updated the ECU (but didn't change it) changed all the sensors, changed the fuel pump, disabled the bonnet sensor, emptied and cleaned the fuel tank, spark plugs, fuel filter then gave up and told me to either buy a new engine or take it back.

I refused to accept the machine back because though the warranty was over it was still valid because the fault occurred within the warranty period.

In the end I appealed to Mark at Basco? Briggs import and distribution in the UK.

Mark sent a new engine to Europe though once in the hands of Briggs Europe took a few weeks to arrive in France then the mechanic Bruno took 3 months to install it.

The chipper was left outside under a tarp for most if this time which caused the much vaunted powder coating to lift off in large flakes.

It runs sweetly though I cannot justify keeping it as a second chipper.

So it is off to auction in September.

Auction because there is no comeback in the event of a major fault developing.

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, doobin said:

Briggs and scrap em. They’ve always been shit. 

Agreed, not a fan of Briggs motors in general, especially the old "vacu jet" or "pulse jet" (?) carbs that sat on top of the tank. They relied on good valve seating to get them to run right. I believe the Vanguard engines (at least the early ones) were built/designed by Diahatsu. No ECU either i believe on the early models.

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8 hours ago, Ty Korrigan said:

The third time the engine had running problems, the chipper was away for 15+ months at the next closest Briggs Efi certified mechanic over 2 hours away. 

The first Efi guy an hour away was a sulky twunt with a permanent Gallic shrug.

After a few months of renting and wee Chinesium chippering, I decided to blow my house deposit on a new diesel chipper rather than go into the Autumn without a reliable machine.

The mechanic updated the ECU (but didn't change it) changed all the sensors, changed the fuel pump, disabled the bonnet sensor, emptied and cleaned the fuel tank, spark plugs, fuel filter then gave up and told me to either buy a new engine or take it back.

I refused to accept the machine back because though the warranty was over it was still valid because the fault occurred within the warranty period.

In the end I appealed to Mark at Basco? Briggs import and distribution in the UK.

Mark sent a new engine to Europe though once in the hands of Briggs Europe took a few weeks to arrive in France then the mechanic Bruno took 3 months to install it.

The chipper was left outside under a tarp for most if this time which caused the much vaunted powder coating to lift off in large flakes.

It runs sweetly though I cannot justify keeping it as a second chipper.

So it is off to auction in September.

Auction because there is no comeback in the event of a major fault developing.

 

 

 

I do remember all that grief Ty

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