How long have we urban dwellers got?

[openspaceman]

3 hours ago, jimbob01 said:

it also seems rather strange that the policies implemented by these so called governors often involve particles to small to actually see 🤔

Which is why they can pass through a mucous membrane and into the blood

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

On 02/03/2023 at 09:24, sime42 said:

It all seems like a case of lowest hanging fruit to me. Much easier to blame a few woodburners rather than address the much bigger issue of all the filthy Chelsea Tractors, and general excess of vehicles on the roads. We can't possibly stand in the way of the oil companies' profits can we?! 

 

We've been breathing woodsmoke forever. It seems far more likely to me that the seemingly recent raft of pollution related health issues stem from one of the modern sources that have already been suggested. Processed foods, plastics, cosmetics, domestic cleaning products, pesticides, non-stick coatings, take your pick. Most people are exposed to several 100s of different chemicals every single day, in their various home/work/leisure environments. I doubt many of them have been tested for the impacts on human health.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ban wood burners - Heathrow expansion to cater for recreational flights - OK.....

[GarethM]

Loved watching the conservative guy rip into khan.

 

Summed it up in reply to the argument is like smoking the ban in pubs.

 

No it's a fee to smoke in pubs and we have to buy them from you.

[sime42]

19 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Ban wood burners - Heathrow expansion to cater for recreational flights - OK.....

Exactly

[devon TWiG]

There does seem to be quite a few reports in the media about the pollution caused by woodburners , which is in itself enough to trigger campaign groups to call for a ban , and almost any MP would not miss the opportunity of a publicity photo with a child with COPD etc whilst calling for a ban and claiming to be a gaurdian of the environment !!  I really do not understand the fuss as most stoves are only lit at night in winter , and there are far more important things to focus on . 

[difflock]

I was thinking of this post this morning, as I was lying in bed with the weak Sunlight breaking in through the East facing  window, which rays of light beautifully illuminated the thousands, millions of dancing motes of dust circulating above our bed.

And I was thinking, hmmmmm  .  .  .  humanity evolved to survive and indeed thrive in such shitty dusty natural environments.

Then I went out for a cycle and tasted the diesel/kero exhaust fumes from passing cars. And I was thinking, hmmmm, you know what, that shit is probably not good for my body.

Cheers,

Mth

 

 

 

[Squaredy]

2 hours ago, difflock said:

I was thinking of this post this morning, as I was lying in bed with the weak Sunlight breaking in through the East facing  window, which rays of light beautifully illuminated the thousands, millions of dancing motes of dust circulating above our bed.

And I was thinking, hmmmmm  .  .  .  humanity evolved to survive and indeed thrive in such shitty dusty natural environments.

Then I went out for a cycle and tasted the diesel/kero exhaust fumes from passing cars. And I was thinking, hmmmm, you know what, that shit is probably not good for my body.

Cheers,

Mth

 

 

 

Yes apparently all our houses are filled with plastic dust (presumably from our clothes).  Even more shocking that a single cup of tea apparently can contain 14 billion (yes BILLION) microplastic/nanoplastic particles.  Here is a link re the tea bags: 

Microplastics: Premium teabags leak billions of particles - study

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Microplastics in drinking water do not appear to pose a health risk at current levels, research suggests.

When you see stats like this you wonder what to think and what to believe.  Can we really swallow that many particles each time we make a cuppa?

 

Personally I have stopped buying tea bags containing plastic - I did wonder why my home made compost contained many not quite rotted tea bags even after several years of decomposition.

 

Is there any large scale independent research about all these particles and how harmful they are?  Apparently it has been discovered that car tyre dust reached the poles at least fifty years ago!  So it is everywhere - we just need to know how it is going to affect us, and all the other organisms around the world that ingest it.

 

 

[GarethM]

What are biodegradable plastics made from ?. Washing clothes releases it into the rivers as you can't filter anything for very long micron sized.

 

Personally eat healthy, use common sense and avoid huffing anything questionable and probably avoid vegetable oils.

 

Life is too short to worry about stuff you have no control over 🙂.

Edited March 5, 2023 by GarethM

[AHPP]

46 minutes ago, Squaredy said:

Yes apparently all our houses are filled with plastic dust (presumably from our clothes).  Even more shocking that a single cup of tea apparently can contain 14 billion (yes BILLION) microplastic/nanoplastic particles.  Here is a link re the tea bags: 

Microplastics: Premium teabags leak billions of particles - study

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Microplastics in drinking water do not appear to pose a health risk at current levels, research suggests.

When you see stats like this you wonder what to think and what to believe.  Can we really swallow that many particles each time we make a cuppa?

 

Personally I have stopped buying tea bags containing plastic - I did wonder why my home made compost contained many not quite rotted tea bags even after several years of decomposition.

 

Is there any large scale independent research about all these particles and how harmful they are?  Apparently it has been discovered that car tyre dust reached the poles at least fifty years ago!  So it is everywhere - we just need to know how it is going to affect us, and all the other organisms around the world that ingest it.

 

 

Based on microplastic particles 0.05mm long, wide and high (as per article) half a standard mug would be solid plastic. Busted. 
 

 

[Squaredy]

1 hour ago, AHPP said:

Based on microplastic particles 0.05mm long, wide and high (as per article) half a standard mug would be solid plastic. Busted. 
 

 

Good point.  I wonder if anybody has pointed this out to the bbc?