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12 hours ago, coppice cutter said:

Related to all of this, has anyone else noticed how the world seems to be increasingly going to sh1t since Trump left office.

 

Weren't we told that him being president would be a nightmare?

 

Seems the nightmare started once he was ousted.

Him being president was a nightmare. Such a nightmare that it continues to this day. 

 

Don't talk like he wasn't all that bad. Don't be that guy. 

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Squirrel said:

Don't talk like he wasn't all that bad. Don't be that guy. 

Yep, I am that guy.

 

Whereas you presumably are one of those people to whom I referred earlier.

 

So tell me, how did you get it so wrong?

 

Where's this safe, prosperous, pretty, agreeable world that we were going to have once that nasty man Trump was out of office?

 

I see little chuffing sign of it.

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The west have no qualms about "liberating" other countries when it suits our agenda. Or fomenting bloody revolution and installing puppet governments. We don't have moral superiority in this matter. 

Maybe ... the thing is I like to think that US nato led forces try and have a cleaner war and avoid killing too many civilians , not that it does not happen but putin just orders complete annihilation of targets as shown in Syria , whole towns areas bombed and flattened to oblivion.
I would also like to think we try and install a more democratic rule for the better good not that I've agreed with anything we have done either but it's a little closer to home and the worry is this is Sudetenland all over again and one step closer to ww3
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