Day rates when things go wrong..

[Doug Tait]

2 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

I bet who ever got that mewp stuck is a right muppet 🤪

I'm not keen to judge when I don't know the circumstances. Have plenty schoolboy errors under my belt, only last week I broke a key in the fuel cap of the bosses hired dumper, not a good day!

[Doug Tait]

12 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

I'm proud to say I have the same shovel I had when I did my apprenticeship, it's still like new.

I'm proud to have had this one for 35yrs. Inherited from grandad, it was his momento taken from a Military Police Landy, made in 1964 and still my go to digging tool

 

[Stere]

I bought an east german one on ebay after the steel handle on my old snapped off (Had being welded back once already - internal rust)

 

Four Bees: East German Army Pioneer Shovel, DDR National Volksarmee Pionierspaten, NVA, Feldspaten - Field Shovel, FM logo

SHARKY-FOURBEES.BLOGSPOT.COM

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Well, I went and did it again......... I added two more shovels to the collection!  In my own defense, they were only sold in a...

 

Decent quality.

 

Alot of modern hand tools seem to have poor  ergonomics and terrible quality.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

If I were the customer I’d pay the day rate agreed for the number of days worked. 
 

No work done - no money paid. 
 

Can’t even start to think of a way I’d be inclined to look at it any differently. 
 

If I were the service provided I’d be genuinely concerned about how the MEWP was being used and the potential for a catastrophic accident in the future. 

Edited June 5, 2021 by kevinjohnsonmbe

[Stubby]

5 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

If I were the customer I’d pay the day rate agreed for the number of days worked. 
 

No work done - no money paid. 
 

Can’t even start to think of a way I’d be inclined to look at it any differently. 
 

If I were the service provided I’d be genuinely concerned about how the MEWP was being used and the potential for a catastrophic accident in the future. 

Was the MEWP used  Kev ? I thought it got bogged well before it would have been used .

Edited June 5, 2021 by Stubby

[Khriss]

Good point Kev, easily overlooked, tho think Ben got a lot on his plate as it is. K

( not a fan of mewps anyway) 

[topchippyles]

3 minutes ago, Khriss said:

Good point Kev, easily overlooked, tho think Ben got a lot on his plate as it is. K

( not a fan of mewps anyway) 

Afraid of heights are you musch 🙃 Pussy

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, Stubby said:

Was the MEWP used  Kev ? I thought it got bogged well before it would have been used .

What I meant Mr Stubs was, if using in an area where bogging down is even a remote possibility, is the MEWP the right tool for the job. 
 

Granted it may have got bogged in transit to operating zone but was operating zone firm enough?

 

Don’t know, just surmising, MEWPs have a place and a time but I can’t help but feel they also present a potentially greater possibility of injury / harm when not properly deployed. 
 

Right place, right job, right operator - undeniably a suitable option but if any of those factors don’t exist the chance of injury / harm is multiplied many fold - we can look to the States for an early indicator of this and as MEWP use is presented as the ‘preferred’ option in UK I anticipate a corresponding rise in associated accidents here - sure as night follows day. 

 

Not necessarily machine / equipment failure or defect related (assuming it’s late machine and properly serviced) but it will be inappropriate use / operator error / complacency related.  Just my tupenny worth for what it’s worth. 
 

 

[topchippyles]

3 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

What I meant Mr Stubs was, if using in an area where bogging down is even a remote possibility, is the MEWP the right tool for the job. 
 

Granted it may have got bogged in transit to operating zone but was operating zone firm enough?

 

Don’t know, just surmising, MEWPs have a place and a time but I can’t help but feel they also present a potentially greater possibility of injury / harm when not properly deployed. 
 

Right place, right job, right operator - undeniably a suitable option but if any of those factors don’t exist the chance of injury / harm is multiplied many fold - we can look to the States for an early indicator of this and as MEWP use is presented as the ‘preferred’ option in UK I anticipate a corresponding rise in associated accidents here - sure as night follows day. 

 

Not necessarily machine / equipment failure or defect related (assuming it’s late machine and properly serviced) but it will be inappropriate use / operator error / complacency related.  Just my tupenny worth for what it’s worth. 
 

 

Sound like Big J here musch 

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

7 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

Sound like Big J here musch 

I’ll take that as a compliment Les! 👍🏻