Larch price

[Khriss]

2 hours ago, Stubby said:

Where Willie at ?  Damm Willie in da wawder ! 😁

That show has a lot to answer for - full wrap handles fr one. K

[trigger_andy]

You have been watching to many episodes of the old Axe men series, shelby allways gibered on about board feet,,,,Les will know,[emoji23][emoji23]

Not seen any actually. No time for TV. [emoji16]

[gobbypunk]

Shame they didnt make any more I liked that TV program

[spuddog0507]

2 hours ago, gobbypunk said:

Shame they didnt make any more I liked that TV program

Gabe Rygard died in a car crash while on his way to filming, Craig Rygard retired, Jimmy Smith passed away, They did film a new short serises but it was not the same with several of the main characters missing and Shelby was not in this one, and then towards the end of filming Dwayn Deffless passed away, i think that could be the end of Axe men but we nether know as there will all ways be some one else ,

[trigger_andy]

Just called the local sawmill for a price for cladding. They have no stock and won’t have till near the end of the year due non-trade accounts.

The local timber merchant has 137mm x 16mm larch cladding in at £5.50 a board foot.

Suddenly £3 a board foot does not sound so bad.

[trigger_andy]

Board foot is a very obscure way of measuring Andy. It's either cubic foot, cubic metre or linear metre.
 
I'd be looking at £18/cubic foot for straight edged, rough sawn and £30/cubic foot for PAR (planed all round). More than that isn't justifiable.

The merchant was £23 inc vat for 4.2m x 137 x 16mm

[topchippyles]

1 hour ago, Big J said:

 

£2500 a cubic metre including VAT, exactly. Utter greed.

 

Decent quality larch is about £100/t delivered in at the moment. Recovery rate is 0.55 (factoring in the tonne to cubic metre ratios) when cutting premium, no sapwood cladding from good quality logs. So you need £181 worth of raw material to produce a cube of finished product. Commercial mills will covert the logs for about £70 a cubic metre, kiln dry it more or less for free (on account of burning waste wood products and being RHI supported) and then grading and planing double the cost. So £500/cubic metre. That's what I'd expect the wholesale price from a major mill to be. Costs are obviously much higher for small mills, but there is no scenario in which £2500/cubic metre is justifiable. That's getting on for kiln dried walnut prices.

For such a large saw mill pontrilas are really expensive to the general public.

[topchippyles]

2 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

Roadside timber prices are a bit nutty at the moment for log. Daft really considering the generally low quality of UK grown softwood.

 

I was passing a builders supply today in Cullompton and noticed that they had a pack of timber in from Vida. They're a Swedish company - I passed one of their mills in October near Eksjö. It's absolutely enormous. When you consider that their roadside prices of excellent, slow grown log is only about 70% of what ours is, it's no wonder it's economical to ship it into the UK as a competitor for UK grown products.

What do you put our low quality down to j ? Just planted to close together to force growth 

[Stere]

Its the Uk climate to warm to grow quality softwood as its wood has a non ring porous structure, where as UK is good for ring porous hardwoods eg ash as fast grown is better for thoose species.

 

 

Something like that anyways.

 

Management of wood Properties in Planted Forests - A paradigm for global forest production

WWW.FAO.ORG

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An observation that needs no elaboration is that trees of different species produce wood with different properties...

 

Edited May 7, 2021 by Stere

[billy_wizz]

1 hour ago, topchippyles said:

For such a large saw mill pontrilas are really expensive to the general public.

Probably because they don't really want to deal in anything less than full artic loads by choice