Covid 19 inconsistencies

[trigger_andy]

1 hour ago, Big J said:

 

Yep. 

 

Takes big balls as a small country to do something different to the rest of the world and for it to pay off. That said, the Swedes are a sensible bunch and their emphasis of individual responsibility and intelligent guidelines wouldn't have worked here. 

 

I'm over in Sweden next month, and in a quick conversation with a lady at the Swedish embassy, she said she couldn't understand why people in London were having big parties through summer. It seemed reckless, she said. 

 

That's another point worth making. Obviously, Sweden is still on the quarantine list (which makes no sense at all - much lower infection rate than us) so I emailed the British government to find out more information, ideally when it would be removed. No response. So I called them. Was told I was through to the wrong department, was given another number. Rang that number. Automated menu with no option relating to my issue. Gave up. 

 

Called the Swedish embassy, had a very pleasant conversation with a nice lady called Vanja, got plenty of info, got a follow up email too. Same experience when I called the Danish embassy (as we'd fly to Copenhagen). 

 

Why is it that I'm treated with much more respect by staff from embassies of countries that I am not a citizen of than by my own government? ?

They have a vastly different mentality than us. But also they tax everyone much more and also their population is significantly smaller. Its the same dealing with Norway.

[Johnsond]

38 minutes ago, Big J said:

It doesn't bother me in the slightest. My wife is a bit more concerned, as she tends to care what other people think! ?

 

If the regulations were as they are at the moment, I'd happily take the whole thing to court, asking them to justify why Sweden wasn't removed from the red list when it's case rate is much lower than the government's own threshold. I'm argumentative like that! ?

J I’d say there is a reluctance to admit Sweden got anything right as that’s pretty much admitting the rest got it wrong big time ?‍♂️. 

[Khriss]

A factor will be, Sweden, like Japan has a generally healthier population  (  I am only disgusted when I go into Town) and more manners and stronger economy. These all combine to give a better result-  not saying its the solution. The solution will be to get rid of that (slighlty less) fat, bleached buffoon first. K

[Johnsond]

29 minutes ago, Khriss said:

A factor will be, Sweden, like Japan has a generally healthier population  (  I am only disgusted when I go into Town) and more manners and stronger economy. These all combine to give a better result-  not saying its the solution. The solution will be to get rid of that (slighlty less) fat, bleached buffoon first. K

Boris being there or not regardless of your politics is neither here nor there. The approach by the UK as a whole not just England is broadly the same as most developed democracies. Sweden went a totally different route that looks to have paid off, looking for individual national characteristics to explain it is pointless. I do recall many on here advocating masks and much much more and deriding those whom voiced a different opinion. 
As previously stated the initial catastrophically damaging lockdown is starting to look more and more like a total waste of time. MSM has long since lost any credibility in regards this virus. I’m just wondering when if at all people will wake up and kick back against the level of control being forced upon them based on downright deception and lies. 

[Johnsond]

Coronavirus: Stay indoors or be fined

APPLE.NEWS

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Boris Johnson is drawing up plans to fine people who breach self-isolation rules amid mounting...

More rules, more control, hotlines for people to inform on others !!!!. Not long ago people would have laughed at you if you’d described this scenario. Sooner people realise this is bullshit the better, The initial lockdown failed as will this latest rubbish. We have never been able to eradicate common cold or Flu type viruses nor will we this one. As an observation the amount of compliance now ingrained into society regarding the masks is sad to see rather than “superb” as a politician described it on TV yesterday. 

Edited September 12, 2020 by Johnsond

[Johnsond]

 Can’t seem to post the Link on this but it’s easy to find. What’s shocking is alternative views such as this receive virtually zero MSM coverage. 

[trigger_andy]

16 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

 Can’t seem to post the Link on this but it’s easy to find. What’s shocking is alternative views such as this receive virtually zero MSM coverage. 

I cant attach links via the app if thats what you're trying to do Dave? 

[Johnsond]

38 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

I cant attach links via the app if thats what you're trying to do Dave? 

?? That can’t Andy 

it doesn’t tKe long for me to max out my IT skills bud ?

if you can find the link somewhere it’s a decent read with a lot of old fashioned common sense. I just can’t for the life of me get why people ain’t looking at alternative sources or information or news 

[Haironyourchest]

I've noticed the Irish government have been trying to backpedal the fear porn hysteria (that they fostered earlier in the year) in recent weeks. Several resignations over bald faced hypocrisy being exposed, golfing weekends, trips to Italy, etc.

[Acerforestry]

On 12/09/2020 at 09:27, Johnsond said:

Coronavirus: Stay indoors or be fined

APPLE.NEWS

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Boris Johnson is drawing up plans to fine people who breach self-isolation rules amid mounting...

More rules, more control, hotlines for people to inform on others !!!!. Not long ago people would have laughed at you if you’d described this scenario. Sooner people realise this is bullshit the better, The initial lockdown failed as will this latest rubbish. We have never been able to eradicate common cold or Flu type viruses nor will we this one. As an observation the amount of compliance now ingrained into society regarding the masks is sad to see rather than “superb” as a politician described it on TV yesterday. 

I'm actually starting to feel that anyone who can't see this gradual, insiduous increase of control measures is maybe not seeing the wood for the trees here. All the time, this ramped - up melodrama about the "huge increase in postitive cases", when as it's plain to see, people are not dropping dead (or even getting notably sick)left, right and centre. Nor are the hospitals full. Yes, this is for the best part complete ballbags