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55 minutes ago, openspaceman said:
I recently got a bag of dried food for the dog so no problem there for a few weeks.
 
I was unable to buy bread and eggs  in the village, don't need much else.
 
We have a family do which cannot be postponed but my wife was able to get some basics from the local garden centre café as they destock, mostly by doing take away till Monday.
 
As it's reported that 25% of our food comes from takeaways, cafes, pubs etc it would seem sensible for them to maintain their supply chains and do some retail to take the pressure off elsewhere.

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So you're quite happy to risk spreading a virus that can kill and is wrecking the economy rather than cancel a family get together. Disgraceful selfish attitude, you deserve every bit of flack heading your way.

 Geeez, chill out Petal.  Wait for the facts before mounting that very tall horse of yours. 

 

Its the Coffin Dodgers that are at risk anyway, or folk who already have serious issues. Both those categories should be well into isolation by now. But they're not, they are dithering around Tescos. So spare me the self-righteous indignation. If whoever attends this gathering are young, fit and healthy and will not be coming into to contact with those at risk then crack on. If there is coffin dodgers there and are happy to take the risk then thats on them. Id do the same. 

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24 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

 Geeez, chill out Petal.  Wait for the facts before mounting that very tall horse of yours. 

 

Its the Coffin Dodgers that are at risk anyway, or folk who already have serious issues. Both those categories should be well into isolation by now. But they're not, they are dithering around Tescos. So spare me the self-righteous indignation. If whoever attends this gathering are young, fit and healthy and will not be coming into to contact with those at risk then crack on. If there is coffin dodgers there and are happy to take the risk then thats on them. Id do the same. 

Yo, just wanted to add quickly... it isn't just the coffin dodgers at risk when (not if) the hospitals get overwhelmed. The death rate skyrockets at that point.

You are right, age, underlying health conditions, obesity, and a history of smoking won't help you, but neither will a lack of hospital equipment caused by too many large gatherings of people. The science is clear on this one... ignoring the advice to #stayathome causes many more deaths further down the line. It takes the case fatality rate from 1-3% up to around 10-15%, regardless of age bracket.

 

Just to make the situation clear, because some people are still a little hazy on the facts: the virus is already rife in society among asymptomatic carriers, and the point of isolation and social distancing isn't to prevent any individual from contracting it, it is (say it with me here!) to "flatten the curve", and give the health service a better chance of keeping up (which they won't).

 

As it stands, the projected death toll for the UK right now is somewhere around half a million, and all current efforts are intended to stop that number from rising into seven figures. At the moment, with people STILL socialising and coughing all over large groups of people, that isn't looking likely.

 

Good luck,  everyone. 

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6 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

My younger daughter's funeral and close family will have a cup of tea and scones in the garden after.

I am sorry for your loss, and I hope you and your family find peace, together or apart.

 

4 minutes ago, trigger_andy said:

I hope you fucking twats having a go at him now are ashamed of yourselves!

 

A family friend (wife's mother's colleague) died recently, suspected corona virus but undiagnosed and thus unofficial, and was buried alone, with no wake and no funeral. Here in Ireland, this is a big deal, but it is now par for the course for the next 12 months.

In Italy, hundreds of people are dying every day without seeing their family, and being buried without funerals or wakes.

 

Once again... the current projected death toll for the UK is at least half a million people. I'll leave you with that number.

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4 minutes ago, peds said:

A family friend (wife's mother's colleague) died recently, suspected corona virus but undiagnosed and thus unofficial, and was buried alone, with no wake and no funeral. Here in Ireland, this is a big deal, but it is now par for the course for the next 12 months.

In Italy, hundreds of people are dying every day without seeing their family, and being buried without funerals or wakes.

 

Nothing on earth would stop me being at my daughter funeral. I'll leave you with that.....

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